What I'm suggesting is the Hernandez one is debatable. You sometimes get those and sometimes you don't. Hernandez could easily have been pulled up for off-side. The Arteta one was more clear-cut as he was clearly 4 yards off-side, and to give a goal is a bit of a joke. The lines-man for the Suarez one seemed to not know the rules. Suarez wasn't even level. If he were level, then it would have been debatable as those are 50/50. Seeing as he was clearly behind the defenders when the ball was played, then he was clearly on-side.
Just in the interests of accuracy, the thread is about the hypocrisy of Ferguson, who had no choice but to agree that Evans made contact (it was as plain as a pikestaff) but justified it with some contrived nonsense of Torres being able to keep on his feet - my contrast with Young was not yesterday's game but the several penalties he 'won', including the one against QPR where Derry brushed his shirt with a fingertip when Young was clear through. Remember what Ferguson said? Young went down easily, but there was contact, so the referee had no choice. Nothing about the forward staying on their feet and taking the chance there. QED = bent ****ing hypocrite.
I have to agree with this. Lets bring it back to the Antonio Valencia one at Anfield, if Valencia was ''clipped'' by Glen Johnson, then Torres was taken out by Jonny Evans. There was contact on Torres. Don't give me this guff on exaggerating falls. If someone is tripped, they are tripped. Its a bit ludicrous to book the person that was tripped instead of the person that was doing the tripping.
Torres could have easily stayed on his feet, he looks up sees Rio in a much better position to win the ball so he goes down. Granted had Torres stayed on his feet he probably would have missed anyways.
I know pal, I'm joking As with most decisions though we have the benefit of loads of replays. The Herndandez one happened so fast it was really hard for the lino and with the Torres one in real time it actually did look like he had dived. However I still don't see how the Suarez goal against Everton was disallowed as he wasn't offside at any point. I did love it though as my mate was still stood on his chair waving his shirt round his head at the Everton fans in the pub long after most had seen it was disallowed
So what you're saying is that Torres didn't dive and neither did Young when he won those penalties. Glad you're finally up to speed.
IMO, you can tolerate to a degree when officials get a big decision wrong because they are only human and it happens, still very annoying but it happens. However, when a linesman decides to put is flag up for offside a good four or five seconds after the ball has gone into the net you have to question the mentality of that official. Did he put it up because he saw it was Suarez? Was he listening to the Everton fans? Or their players? I didn't see them claiming anything so doubt this one. (the Chelsea defenders didn't claim anything with the Hernandez offside either) I think Suarez didn't mean to stand on Distin's leg but that does not mean it is not a possible red card. Personally, I don't think the referee can give a red unless he is certain, same goes for the Torres incident. On that, why are the Chelsea fans going so mad about Fernando's sending off yet there isn't a mention of David Luiz being lazy for Ivanovic's red card? If he'd put a bit of effort in then Ivanovic wouldn't have been deemed the last man
please log in to view this image While the decision to allow the goal was wrong, the view of Hernandez is clearly blocked by Cech and partially also by a defender. Understandable why the officials screwed it up. The Suarez one is totally baffling tbh.
Plus that is with the benefit of replays and a 'still' photo. In real time it was a tough call,which unusually at The Bridge, went our way.
Its quite amazing how many times Man united are on the right end of theese scandalous decisions. They usually get some horrible decisions in their favour at Old Trafford but now its happening at at Stamford Bridge and Anfield.
Don't forget to throw in the fourth official who was ready at a seconds notice to take over in any capacity and keep the conspiracy going. He was only following orders from David Gill remember, the vice chair of the Ferguson Association. Phew! Are we clear?
