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Off Topic Gun Control

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  1. Billy Death

    Billy Death Well-Known Member

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    I wasn't that good but I could hit a man in the chest if needed.
     
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  2. Makemstine Roger

    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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    did you have to pull yer zip down first mate, then hit him in the eye with a full load...<laugh><laugh><laugh>
     
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  3. Billy Death

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    Aye, tap tap, lol.
     
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    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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    used to love going to yantlet in the Thames estuary, for demolitions, mine and camoflay charges were great fun
     
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  5. Nostalgic

    Nostalgic Well-Known Member

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    My point was that there is no or little need for the amount of high powered weapons swilling around in the US. Many of the users are not pros or had adequate training.
     
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  6. haslam

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    ish.

    Aside from being semi-repealed the very next year (before being confirmed by another king in 1290-odd most of the magna carta has been over-ruled by now, which is hardly surprising given it's 800 years old.

    For obvious reasons it didn't mention gunpowder at the time and the active laws we have in that regard are pretty clear - almost no excuses, no mens rea required.

    Still though, magna carta - what a beauty, you have to wonder if she died in vain though.
     
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  7. MrRAWhite

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    tens of thousands of deaths in the USA through guns says you are right..
     
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  8. Brian Storm

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    It's the mentality of the people and not the laws imo. Over here, provided you pass checks anyone can get themselves a gun licence and take up shooting as a hobby. If people really wanted there could be gun safes in every residence and you'd probably be able to get your shells at Tesco. But we don't want to as a society so we don't. The right remains all the same.

    People say access is to firearms and ammo is too easy in the US. But it's just supply and demand in a capitalist country. It's there because the people want it there. They'll never solve the gun problem in america because too many people don't even recognise it as a problem. They're destined to blow **** out each other for evermore because that's what they want to do. And to make sure there's no turning back they've stalemated themselves in the worst possible way by taking the defend yourself stance. They've ****ed themselves as a civilisation imo.
     
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  9. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    Not a fan of guns at all. There's no need for them amongst the civilian population. They only cause trouble.
     
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  10. Brian Storm

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    I'd love one. Id love to be able hunt my own food, knowing they had the best life possible. Hunting is a national past time in Canada, they never get out of 3 figures for gun related deaths. It's definitely about the people owning them for me.
     
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    What sort of gun would you have & what would you hunt for food?
     
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  12. Brian Storm

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    I think I'd start on Grouse with a Shotgun(after I've learnt to use one of course). My uncle(by marriage) is a wildlife expert and former Reindeer Shepherd and Vicar(mental) and he lives in the highlands. Love the place. He's not far from lock ness in inverness shire, he went to Gordonstoun with Prince Charles and his nephew is the lead singer of Athlete, Crazy and interesting family. He'll take me under his wing if I got a licence, he doesn't shoot but knows the terrain and can spend weeks out there in the wilderness, he can track the lot. Dear Stalking appeals but you're talking naughty firepower with vast experience in shooting needed so that's not even worth discussing at the moment though my uncle could teach me to stalk them if I ever got that in to it.
     
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  13. Nostalgic

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    Nowt gives you more power than having a lethal weapon in your hand, but as you say, it is the mentality of the carrier and the ease by which they get these lethal bloody things that is at the root of the whole problem.

    It has been reported that even a 3YO can go into his mother's handbag and end up firing her pistol by accident. I watched a Discovery channel doco about guns in the US and it is not uncommon to buy a 5 or 6 YO a rifle for their birthday even though some of the kids were terrified of them after the first bang.
     
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  14. Blunham Mackem

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    I've no problem with guns used for hunting for food. I've done it myself.

    It's the M16s and automatic pistols on the streets that bothers me.

    It's the kid that walks into a school and shoots dead 20 kids aged 6 and 7. And their teachers.

    It's the repressed gay guy who walks into a gay nightclub and shoots dead 49 and injures 53.

    The one question that no American politician, or any American come to that, can answer is just what it would take before the American people decide once and for all to take action on the numbers of guns freely available in their country. And to let their children live full lives.
     
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  15. Nostalgic

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    Guess what Bri, the Canadians have strong gun control and licensing where weapons are restricted mainly to hunting rifles. Also they would have been part of the Brit force that would have been a threat to the US just after independence.
     
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  16. Brian Storm

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    I find Canada a very appealing country.
     
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  17. Billy Death

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    That sounds very idyllic Bri.
    Go for it. <ok>
     
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  18. Billy Death

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    Aye, me too.
     
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  19. Nostalgic

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    On my bucket list, but i am not sure which part as it is so vast. We have rellies in US in Vermont and Oregon and the terrain on east and west coast is so different. On balance I would prefer British Columbia for forestry but that prairie is too huge a drive to even think about.
     
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    In the US you are more likely to be shot dead by a toddler than by a terrorist. Not rhetoric, just statistically accurate.
     
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