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Grand Prix thread GULF AIR BAHRAIN GRAND PRIX 2024 - Quali Friday

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by ched999uk, Feb 27, 2024.

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Who will finish the first race of 2024 first?

Poll closed Mar 1, 2024.
  1. Max Verstappen

    42.9%
  2. Charles Leclerc

    7.1%
  3. Sergio Perez

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  4. Carlos Sainz

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  5. Fernando Alonso

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  6. Lewis Hamilton

    21.4%
  7. George Russell

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  8. Lando Norris

    14.3%
  9. Daniel Ricciardo

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  10. Any Other

    7.1%
  1. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    Well, not an awful lot to glean from FP1 other than Merc, Ferrari, and Alonso look close ish on mediums. McLaren a gap back in 5th (they’ll beat RB Visa when the engines are turned up).

    Red Bull looked to have a bit up their sleeve on the opening runs but then some little gear gremlins seemed to occupy them so we didn’t get a comparison to the second runs on medium of Ferrari, Merc and Alonso.
     
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  4. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    So RB, not red bull, (****ing stupid) go out of softs and set 1:32.869

    in the test Ferrari did 1:29.921s on softs

    this P1 is nowhere.

    I still expect a 1:28 time for pole.
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    my understanding is everyone was on softs in the first 4 cars, we have Verstappen on mediums right beside the aston of alonso

    roll on P2
     
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    SgtBhaji Well-Known Member

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    We're really going to know jack until this weekend is done, then we should have a bit of a better picture on where everyone is at.
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    this is the time now thats most representative of Quali.

    I expect some times but at least 0.5s slower than pole
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Verstappen whinging and moaning all the way.

    Hamilton has done a 1:30:751. nothing special so far but on softs

    verstappen 1:31:161

    Awaiting a really doors blown off perofrmance from anyone thus far.
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Sainz and piastri now right next to hamilton in the 100s of seconds differences.
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    starting to see the times ramp up now.

    1:30.374 hamilton
    1:30.851 verstappen
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    basically HAAS hulkenberg 1:30.884

    we can take from that that we are 2 seconds minimum for ultimate time.
     
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    The only thing I can’t tally up is Hulkenberg P7 next to Max- even if his engine is turned up I still think there’s a lot of performance coming tomorrow from the big boys.

    Are Red Bull running very low power mode after the gearshift worries earlier?
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    First sector - Lewis Hamilton (29.037)

    Middle sector - Oscar Piastri (38.665)

    Final sector - George Russell (22.567)

    so ultimate is 1:30:269 right now.

    S1 and S3 are straights so a straight power debate

    theres no way mclaren are the fastest in the bends.
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    the teams seem to be pounding round doing laps rather than a quali run on softs.

    I doubt we get an answer today.
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    merc laps times when doing the 10 lap run on softs is slower than the red bulls doing the same.
     
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    Remember folks, take anything you see here with a pinch of salt. We have no clue of setup, fuel loads etc. just practice.
     
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    Unfortunately I have a feeling that Red Bull are holding back in a huge way. That said it does look like we might have a competition behind them.
    As a comparison:
    1:30.374 lewis P2 2024
    1:29.708 max quali 2023
    1:30.907 Alonsa Practice 2 2023
     
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    McLaren are high speed corner beasts since the Silverstone upgrade- wait until Suzuka!
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    the next whinge from the brat is on upshifts.

    gear box change and grid penalty incoming?

    He's every excuse under the sun for not being on top.
     
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    Yeah it’s obvious that somethings hidden - it’s more about how big the gap is.

    Ferrari are surely way faster than this- their top speeds are usually the best so they will get stronger in quali too.


    That Haas is the key clue though- we will see tomorrow.

    Piastri with a good long run there too!
     
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