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Greg Dyke

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  1. Tobes

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    Dyke's proposal wouldn't stop that happening, so you've totally missed the point.

    He basically wants the work permit laws enforcing and the top 70 countries reduced to the top 50.

    The league will never be starved of genuine World stars, it'll just reduce the number of Carlos Kickaballs knocking around the league, sat on numerous benches and playing in reserve sides. This combined with a minimum homegrown requirement might encourage clubs to either go to the lower leagues in search of talent or even better, trust their own and give some of their youngsters a chance as opposed to merely loaning them out year after year.
     
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  2. Jimmy Squarefoot

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    We already have quite a few talented youngsters in this country - and some are representing the national side. Get a young dynamic, progressive manager who can actually use them should be priority - Roy Hodgson is not the answer.

    The second problem is the standard of coaching and also the cost of it. Other nations offer cheaper courses and they also have a significantly higher number of qualified coaches. There;s a talk about how there's not enough good young footballers - well, the same applies to coaches.

    Also - I'm in favour of the B team but that's because I think it would benefit our youngsters from our club's perspective (which could impact the national team of course). I think this is a better route than simply loaning them to a lower team. This is because the player will not only be exposed to competitive football but he will continue playing in the same style, and with the same players he will HOPE to play with if they progress to the first team. Loaning to another club involves adapting to a new style, tactic, coaching methods etc etc. In the case of LFC, we have some of the best coaches and methods and I don't want the youngsters to deviate from that.
     
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  3. johnsonsbaby

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    Isn't that a good thing though? No player is ever complete, there's always something new to learn and add to their game. Exposure to different styles and managers and adapting to it shows great coachability and willingness to learn and then bring those new skills back to the team.
     
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  4. Jimmy Squarefoot

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    It depends on which club you loan him to. Using LFC's coaching as an example - we have some of the best coaching/facilities in the world and finding the same standard of coaching at a smaller club would be very difficult.
     
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  5. Fair play to him for trying something but his hands are tied by EU laws. None EU players is a small percentage of the PL but it is an area he can work on with relative ease (not worry about laws etc).

    The Homegrown ruling is suppose to encourage clubs to bring youngsters through with a attached hope that most will be English or Welsh. However, clubs have just started buying lots of youngsters and sticking them in their academy's. If they get forty youngsters in and one works out its been a worthwhile exercise. Therefore, the homegrown rules as done ****all towards the English quota as per the original expectation.
     
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  6. Jimmy Squarefoot

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    And in Man City's case, just loan Frank Lampard!
     
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    I would agree, if all players were wise enough to assimilate what they learn from different regimes and pick the best or most appropriate style.
    However, we know a lot of players aren't necessarily the brightest and I always think there's a danger of them picking up habits that won't suit us.
    Loanee clubs need to be chosen very carefully,imo. Players who have a future with us should only be sent somewhere where they will receive coaching that is sympathetic to ours. It's more important than just easing the wage bill for a while.
     
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  8. For nothing!
     
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  9. johnsonsbaby

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    I agree in part but think about the confidence it would give a younger player being at a smaller club and excelling.

    The FA could lower the figure to a country having to be top 50 as Dyke's suggested or top 20 if they wanted, it's up to them, on a humanity level it would be a shame that youngsters from the poorer countries who had remarkable talent wouldn't be given a chance in this country. If the country ranking is lessened by our FA, watch the rest of Europe sweep up the talent.

    I would hope a lot of thought went into it - on a side note Coates is rumoured to want to stay at Sunderland.
     
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  10. Top 20 sounds good since its only non-EU countries we're talking about. Can't recall the likes of Brazil, Argentina or Uruguay dropping out the top twenty too recently.
     
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  11. Germlands Nozzer

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    Brazil were 22nd in June 2013: http://www.fifa.com/associations/association=bra/ranking/gender=m/
    Uruguay last in 2009, Argentina in 1997 or so.

    England last in June 1996! (#24) Although we were #20 in July.
     
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  12. johnsonsbaby

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    Top 20 ranking hasn't been mentioned btw that was just me picking a number out of the air - Dyke has said top 50 [lowering it from top 70].
     
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