You should definitely stick with him, he's doing a great job. Particularly the stuff he does for the community, like giving Billy Paynter gainful employment.
No, I listed Lambert as an example of someone who's had more money than him to work with. I'd say he were a better manager than McDermott, Davies and Jones.
League finish weighed against the amount of financial backing from the managers' respective boards. The same reason Malky Mackay is rated highly for keeping thrifty Watford stable.
I'm sick of hearing this pointless comparison between Grayson and Lambert. Managers like Lambert are one in a million, the chances of finding one young and getting that much out of them is so unbelievably difficult yet idiots like you expect that if we were to sack Grayson we'd get one as good as Lambert in a heartbeat. I think Donald was implying that Grayson is certainly better than Jones and Davies, possibly better than McDermott. What Norwich did should not have been, nor should it ever be, expected by any freshly promoted side. It is simply not realistic. Building a solid, promotion winning team does not happen over night. Time and again you have basically stated that you expect Grayson should have pulled a promotion winning squad out of his ass and the fact that he didn't means he's terrible and should have been sacked. He's done exceptionally well without spending much and has shown the majority of Championship clubs up for the mugs that they are in one season. Forest were 3 points off being made fools of by us, after trying (and failing) to get promotion the 2 previous seasons. And you know what the difference is between them and you? They still had faith in Billy Davies right until the end, because he was doing a brilliant job with a tight budget. Fortunately Leeds aren't a set of muppets like Forest so we shouldn't suffer from such pathetic mediocrity. And for my final point, you. The reason people can't stand you on forums is not because they can't debate properly with you. Plenty of people try. It's that you disregard anyone who disagrees with any single point you make no matter how trivial and then you start insulting them and being condescending towards them as if your opinion is somehow superior, even though time and time again you show people how little you actually know about football. Also, you get proper moody and claim people aren't debating with you the moment they say something that isn't bowing down to you and telling you you're right. Weren't you loved enough as a child?
As I was typing that post, Donald wrote that he thinks Grayson is better than Davies, Jones and McDermott. I think we have some sort of psychic link =\
They all finished in the top six. Only two teams can finish in the top two. And isn't it ultimately about the quality of the squads? Grayson didn't need to spend millions because he already had Howson, Gradel, Snodgrass, Becchio and was able to get Schmeichel on a free. You're looking at over 15m worth of talent there.
Except we found out over the course of a season that Schmeichel is actually totally balls. The step up from League One to Championship is a biggy, you have to improve significantly and that equals spending money. And that's only 4 players (I know you mentioned 5, but see what I already wrote). 4 players is not an entire squad.
You're talking absolute nonsense, Mark. It's not surprising when you've said Grayson is better than 17 managers because we finished above 17 teams.
Except I'm not talking absolute nonsense, you keep yammering on about how great Schmeichel is and how it's a mistake to let him go but the only argument that backs up your claim is that he's a great shot stopper. Great shot stopping alone does not a great goalkeeper make.
Grayson did well to recognize and not tinker with that attacking four of Howson, Gradel, Snodgrass and Becchio which won us so many points. It's the lack of investment in the defence and midfield which cost us transfers-wise. No-one can argue he inherited a good squad in those areas. I hope that situation changes over the course of this summer now it seems there might be some money to spend.
Clivetime tis good to have a bit of realism on this board, rather than the pilled up jibba jabber, complete stoned nonsense, that is usually posted. I FULLY agree with your wisdom x
At this point in time SG looks rather silly, so many mistakes last season, only something amazing in his signings (which to be fair have been fukn awful) will save the ****.
Yes. Brave and correct decision to play those players from the League One squad over his shiny new signings most games whom most of the fans were demanding to see more of. Obviously the lack of rotation on evening games shows he took that commitment too far. You don't think that was more to do with how they were tired and had no on-pitch leaders to keep them involved in the games?
Duce I didn't take you for such a big SG fan? Or u just balancing out the opposite view? Which is GOOD!
You really are pissed I am a bit of an SG fan, I see his faults but I think the majority of the blame has to be attributed to Bates for a lack of funding and towards the coaching staff for generally being piss poor. Plus Grayson's record with us speaks for itself, he's kept us moving forward every season and got us playing some decent stuff.
Surely the funding argument is up for discussion? We don't really know how much he really got to spend on signings or wages. All we know is his signings were ****e, and are likely to continue to be so.
