Grant Holt.

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K E M P said:
Holty was more to us than a striker.

He was our talisman who when the chips were down dragged our team kicking and screaming through to victory on most occasions.

Murphy may well be a fine striker, I have no idea as frankly I don't even know who even plays for you. Holty though was far more than a striker for us, his contribution was immense and cannot be measured in goals alone.

Holty > Murphy.

Edit - if Ipswich go up then there may be more of an argument but so far I'm still with Holty. Let's wait and see shall we?
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Kempy, I've already myself said that Holty was talismanic for you, I'm not taking anything away from him, I actually quite like the guy, a proper lad who used to mix it with the banter with our TWTD lads on Twatter and gave as good as he got, and always gave 100% on the pitch...the kind of player that fans can relate to, went down a bit too easy in and around the penalty area for my liking, but there you go...

But on no way, no way in the world can you say Holt> Neymurph.
 
wellyblue said:
Kempy, I've already myself said that Holty was talismanic for you, I'm not taking anything away from him, I actually quite like the guy, a proper lad who used to mix it with the banter with our TWTD lads on Twatter and gave as good as he got, and always gave 100% on the pitch...the kind of player that fans can relate to, went down a bit too easy in and around the penalty area for my liking, but there you go...

But on no way, no way in the world can you say Holt> Neymurph.
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At the moment he is in my opinion as Murphy and ipswich are still in the Championship. If he gets you promoted then there can be a proper conversation about it because that's what Holty did with us.

Tell me, because I don't know. Does Murphy have the same aura about him as Holty? Is he more than a striker for the Ipswich fans?
 
K E M P said:
At the moment he is in my opinion as Murphy and ipswich are still in the Championship. If he gets you promoted then there can be a proper conversation about it because that's what Holty did with us.

Tell me, because I don't know. Does Murphy have the same aura about him as Holty? Is he more than a striker for the Ipswich fans?
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Now that's a difficult one Kempy, because Holty was your captain, and had also banged in a few goals for you in League 1 (which are not applicable in this discussion as against lower league defenses ;)) But yes, Murphy seems blessed with the golden touch at the moment and we expect him to score whenever he has the ball in a scoring position.

There was one match, Brentford away if I remember, when he scored and he jogged away laughing to himself as if to say, 'This scoring goals malarky is so ****ing easy...', I'm sure that I remember seeing Holty celebrate in the same nonchalant manner for you lot.

The comparison is there to be made.
 
I can't praise TC enough for all the extra work spent on the training ground with Murphs over the past 18 months. As Mick says Murphs is settled in Suffolk, he loves the area, he is now a Town player, he plays in his most favoured position as a number 9 and he works his nuts off for the team. Murphy is having the time of his life and he loves playing for Town.
 
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What an enigma Murphy is. He's had one good season in the twilight of his career, Curetonesque.

I saw him play and score against Kilkenny many years ago. He's scored more this season than every season since combined. Weird.
 
wellyblue said:
Now that's a difficult one Kempy, because Holty was your captain, and had also banged in a few goals for you in League 1 (which are not applicable in this discussion as against lower league defenses ;)) But yes, Murphy seems blessed with the golden touch at the moment and we expect him to score whenever he has the ball in a scoring position.

There was one match, Brentford away if I remember, when he scored and he jogged away laughing to himself as if to say, 'This scoring goals malarky is so ****ing easy...', I'm sure that I remember seeing Holty celebrate in the same nonchalant manner for you lot.

The comparison is there to be made.
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wellyblue said:
no way in the world can you say Holt> Neymurph.
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when your guy gets you promoted and then scores 15 premier league goals in his debut season, making him the 8th highest scorer overall,and 2nd highest english stiker, sure then we can have a fair comparison.
 
batterseacanary said:
on a thread thats a clear WUM, thats pretty rich, if welly's real interest was how many goals holt scored 2010-2011 he could have googled it in five seconds. Thats not why he started this thread!
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Gandy's comparison of Cureton to Murphy is the most valid he scored 23 for Colchester in one season then we bought him.
Also if Lg1 goals are dismissed because of lower league oppostion that means Holt's premier league goals prove at this stage that he is a better player than Murphy.
Grabban scored 22 last season and Murphy is yet to beat that stat.
 
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johnnywarksmoustache said:
It's funny how you boys are starting to give it all the Billy Big Bollux after a couple of wins against pretty woeful opposition!
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ha.

right. last seven games, heres the mean position of the teams we've both played and the avg points gained per game.

Norwich - mean opposition position - 12.5
Norwich - points per game - 2.2

Ipswich - mean opposition position - 17
Ipswich - points per game - 1.4

If our opposition are woeful, i hate to think what your low achievement at even lower placed teams say about your form.
 
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batterseacanary said:
ha.

right. last seven games, heres the mean position of the teams we've both played and the avg points gained per game.

Norwich - mean opposition position - 12.5
Norwich - points per game - 2.2

Ipswich - mean opposition position - 17
Ipswich - points per game - 1.4

If our opposition are woeful, i hate to think what your low achievement at even lower placed teams say about your form.
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That's exactly the stat I would rather focus on. The one that I like to look at is on the BBC website re attempts on goal and those on target - the percentage of shot on target since AN arrived has dramatically increased, which can only be good.
 
The big difference between Holt and Murphy is that the big man fired us to two successive promotions, whereas Murphy won't even fire you to one.

Dumped out of the play-offs by Crissy Martin's Derby if he's lucky <ok>
 
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