I dunno about his goals, but we could do with his leadership and personality in the dressing room And on the pitch now
we definitely miss him. we lack a leader on the pitch and i wonder whether bassong's game has suffered for having the captaincy?
In what way is Hughton 'Anti-football'? It is OK to dislike to Hughton and to want a different manager in place (although it would aid your argument if you had a suitable alternative in mind) but your opinion is so ridiculously extreme it is difficult for intelligent and rational people to appreciate. When you look at Norwich's current position and people point out the manager's errors and reason why he should be replaced and offer plausible, constructive suggestions of who could be bought in then you can appreciate their opinions, and I'm now open to the idea that we could do better than Hughton, which I wasn't a few weeks ago. However if you come up with an unreasonable argument supported by debatable claims and offer no suggestions as to how the club could move forward then most people will just think you are an unreasonable, over-opinionated idiot and I think this is really unhelpful for everyone rather than constructive and you strike me as if you are trying to be deliberately provocative. Should you be reasonable and express a coherent, consistent and honest argument people may take your opinion more seriously.
Firstly what does it matter who I or anyone on this board or any other board thinks we should bring in? I wasn't aware we were now employing on the basis of some reality show where the manager with the most votes gets the job. I was under the impression we had a very highly paid Chief exec that made those decisions. Why is it anti football? Have you seen us play? Slow and predictable going forwards, no spark or imagination to our play, rigid shape and forwards largely isolated feeding on scraps. Lastly drop the attitude, there is no need for it.
If you are so adamant that it is the best thing for NCFC that Chris Hughton should go you should be able to come up with a replacement. After all what is the point in sacking him if we don't replace him with someone who is actually better. It is wrong for you to demand Hughton's exit because that in itself won't bring about any improvement; a new manager could possibly bring about improvement that it is what you (and all other Hughton-outers) should be looking for; a new manager, not removing the existing one. Therefore, in the interests of constructivism I think it is fair to ask for who you would consider instead if you think we should cut ties with Hughton. I don't think that is too unreasonable. Your comments intended to justify your opinions are generic and you're not really explaining well just what you think the problem is. I certainly agree with all those points with regards to the league cup game against Manchester United but I don't think it's fair to relate those points to the Cardiff game. Lastly, why don't you drop the attitude of unnecessary, unfounded hate of Chris Hughton? I'm not trying to be offensive although I do realise I may have come across that way, and if so I apologise but I'm saying if you expressed your argument better more people may be willing to listen to it.
I think you've got yourself in a bit of a muddle here - the point is, if you're going to claim you want to defer to the Norwich board on Hughton's replacement, it is contradictory to say you want him out because that is blatantly not deferring to the board's judgment. You either hold your hands up and say "the board knows better" or you say "I have an opinion on this". You can't go halfway house. If it doesn't matter who people on here want as a replacement, it also doesn't matter whether people want him to stay or leave, but people still say so. I'm going to venture an opinion... Hughton's position is shaky, but still not quite irremediable. I think, and in my lack of knowledge I believe I would think the same if given the power to make the decision, Hughton has until early December. These next five/six matches are critical. The one resounding argument for keeping Hughton now is that getting rid may disgruntled the players who came in specifically to play for him and there is no indication that he has lost the dressing room yet, unlike Di Canio or Holloway. December is the "perfect" time to sack a manager, if there is such a thing - gives the opportunity for the new manager to get to know the players and what is needed in the transfer window. It also is unarguably enough time for the old manager to have shown what he can do, no excuses. If the board acts, it will be swift and brutal. I suspect there may be an announcement that will upset a few fans because fingers will be pointed at us for our part. As for who we'd replace him with, it's difficult to know exactly who'd be available (for example, Jol might be, who I would be happy with). I'd also consider Gullit and Di Matteo.
If we had sacked Hughton before the summer, the guy who would have been great, I think, but risky, is Philippe Montanier, but I doubt we'd get him now. Not normally a fan of goalkeeper managers (no idea why...), but his record is great. EDIT - not sure how his English is, if that's a problem... If ability to speak our language were no objection, another alternative sadly taken would have been Juan Ignacio Martinez. I ink our team has too much of an English core to get away with it though.
Apologies, my binary seems to have stifled debate! I was just trying to throw some names out there...
Were you at the game on Saturday? Did you watch us playing in the first half? If so and if the text in bold above is what you truly think then there's little point arguing with you as you must clearly be so brainwashed into wanting Hootun out that you simply refuse to see the improvement in our league form which is staring you - and everyone else - in the face. Dear me.
Yes we played some decent stuff saturday but still failed to take the points and Cardiff arguably created the games best chance, but that is one game, for every one game you can give i can give 7 or 8 where we are poor and the forwards isolated. Are you refusing to accept the words from Holt, who had to play this way as anything other than the truth? As for a replacement, If we were to employ from this country I would like Zola. As for the pathetic comment about my blind hate for Hughton, well that is ridiculous, i like the guy and wanted, still want him to be a success, its just becoming evident that isn't going to happen.
I can't really understand the furore over Holt's comments, they seem very reasonable and ultimately why does it matter? It's just a game played by overpaid arrogant twats with no real connection to the county, club, or fans.
What Grant is doing is no worse than some of what appears to nasty vitriolic comments coming out of SAFs book. Not that it makes it right, I've got people and companies I'm seriously pissed with and could go on bad mouthing them (aside from my complaint with nnuh) but what would it achieve? That time of your life is passed, let it go Sent from my C6903 using Tapatalk
I don't understand why people would have an issue with what Holt is saying, it's true. Last season he was isolated up front, he didn't get the ball fed to him like he needed and CH did play defensively. What's wrong with him saying what we all know?, some people might consider that critical of the club, why? Would people prefer him to lie and say "oh yeh I got loads of the ball and It was an amazing attacking outfit" At least now that CH has the squad he wants he can move towards a more attacking style and get us some goals. The biggest concern for me is the concession, I'm loving the attempts at goal and eventually that's going to turn into regular scoring but it's no good if we are conceding all the time. Seems like we can sacrificed a bit defensively to become more attack minded, we need to find the balance between the two.
Exactly. I'm not sure GH is being critical of CH, just highlighting that he uses a different tactical setup to Lambert that didn't happen to suit him as much.
i've seen the defence criticised a few times now. what is this based on exactly? in the last two games against teams we'd expect to compete on a level playing field with, stoke and cardiff, we've kept two clean sheets and picked up four points. we defended very, very well against chelsea until a string of errors from our own corner and a wonder goal put paid to us getting a deserved result. we let in four at arsenal but their finishing was sublime on the day. tuesday night was a shambles, certainly, but wasn't our strongest team - not by a long shot - and united are always capable of taking chances. i think the balance of the team is fine defensively. tettey has made a difference. i don't think bassong is playing well, nor martin, but unless we are playing one of the big boys, i never really feel much threat to our back line, even with some players not on top of their game, so it makes the criticism a little odd - i don't think we've sacrificed our defensive solidity at all.
Ruddy made two fantastic saves against Cardiff. One of which was caused by a Bassong disaster. Martin got caught twice in the first half which I am positive would have been goals against most other teams bar Cardiff. Not atrocious defending, but both could have cost us a match we dominated
well that's individual mistakes - even the top teams make them sometimes. that's not down to the system though. my point was that i don't think we've shifted the balance too far the other way as was suggested. as a side, we still look solid in the majority of our matches. we are far better in possession than last season and that is helping us to create more chances but we are still lacking in the final third so maybe the balance needs to be addressed again. probably not though - the players just need to make the right decisions and take chances.
