Possibly But other people with radical views such as Tommy Robinson are usually prevented from speaking.
Last night the Home Office stated ‘there is no place for extremism’ after the planned talk by the radical cleric from Bangladesh in East London was cancelled The Home Office also went on to say they are tackling those who spread hate and division He had already given talks in Birmingham and Nottingham Yet again we’re playing catch up and the Home Office are not doing their job
First he switched sides on Brexit, now ULEZ. Can you trust ANYTHING this man says? https://news.sky.com/story/boris-jo...the-scheme-while-he-was-london-mayor-12916924
They're all the bloody same. Not surprised about anything about politicians, groping the latest revelation. They're all nutters.
All politicians bend the truth, they also change their minds as the situation develops, well decent ones do, but Boris is at another level. The man is a habitual liar, and a hypocrite, so much so he doesn’t even realise half the time he’s doing it. if he was from a council estate, and didn’t have the contacts he has, he’d have been banged up years ago.he’s a chancer, a spiv.
Decisions and policies should be made based on the situation and facts available at the time of taking them, as the facts and situations develop so should your decision making. No one would have envisaged a lock down, and certainly not a furlough scheme, but they both happened because the circumstances dictated they should. I imagine your laugh was based on Kier. All opposition leaders are in a difficult position, we all want to know how they would deal differently to the government at any given time. If they refuse to answer they are accused of having no ideas, if they answer, but add a caveat that the situation will change, they are accused of being indecisive, if they answer directly how they’d deal with it at the time and their opinions change as the situation develops they are accused of flip flopping. It’s just a fact they f being an opposition leader.
again your interpretations of certain aspects contradict! You have a real hate relationship with Boris and cannot get away from your pet phrase of ..... the last 13 words used from time to time! how many times do people on here change their minds?? regarding various subjects but more importantly "OUR TOPIC" .. football, more importantly BCFC! [ as opposed to politics which is the domain of various people are involved in! ] just as an exercise I have taken the time over a cup tea to see how many times I have changed my mind over a project I am doing with my antenna system. [Having a new facia/soffits gutters etc which go over the old!!!] 4 main things that need addressing and changes of mind as memory serves is 1, 3, 2 and 2 and job not sorted yet! other simple changes of mind .. going boat fishing. wx looks to dodgy so change of mind went to longleat! etc etc etc Just because a person changes their mind doesnt brand them as a liar....... ........so anyone who complies is a liar?
A liar isn’t based on changing your mind, it’s based on not telling the truth. It’s completely different.
OK .... ALL politicians bend the truth [ something is either truthful or it is not? ! ] if not truthful then is a lie! Bearing in mind you are replying to BCRW comments .. re Brexit and ULEZ ! you need to actually balance your argument with others in the same boat ... taking it directly to politics within Parliament you should in fairness list all the others that changed their minds be they for it or against it ......... or stop victimizing one person! note MY OPINION OF BORIS IS NOT FAVOURABLE AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME, I do appreciate what he did re Brexit .. the fruits of which are slowly unfurling, of how he set everything up pre covid police/ hospitals/ etc the only thing against hinm in the past 2 years is was a fool to himself or he was put upon by others who bent rules .. he never organised? the things he so called got involved with ... and I have said it many times throughout covid 000's flaunted the rules with garden parties . parties christmas get togethers etc etc .. none of them got punished ... WHY? ... because their neighbours didnt go to police, unlike those that video'd it and maybe had an axe to grind ... those at the party BTW were civil servants so all different party supporters
Boris was found guilty by the privileges committee of lying to parliament, he’s been sacked previously for similar, We could all see him doing it in parliament. Of course the truth can be bent, MP’s do it all the time, there are things they can’t answer directly so they skirt around it, but don’t actually lie. I applaud Boris for unblocking the log jam that was parliament post Brexit, I’ve heavily criticised Labour for their handling of the situation.. Boris was PM, he’s supposed to lead by example, to compare people that flaunted the rules with Boris and suggest that somehow that makes his actions ok is ridiculous. I accept he didn’t arrange any of the parties, but he was aware of many and didn’t do the right thing and break them up. Then he tried to deny they took place, then deny he was aware of them, and then tried to justify them. The trouble is once he started by lying he had to tell more and more lies in an attempt to cover it up. Then when he was found out by the privileges committee he then tried to ridicule them, bearing in mind there was a majority of Tory MP’s on the committee. I don’t have a hate relationship with Boris, I quote facts. You have a love in with him and keep trying to justify the unjustifiable.
He was also sacked from the Daily Telegraph for lying. He fell from grace upwards each time he gaffed - until now. Th current Scottish first minister is doing exactly the same - failing upwards.
Being sacked by the Telegraph was the incident I was referring to when I said he’d been sacked previously for something similar.
why do you keep bringing this up? everytime you seem to not be able to answer have a sensible reply! you fall back on one or more of your 3 or 4 stock comments! ITS OLD HAT we all know what was said and done and all that followed you need to appreciate the context of what the comments are about. We are discussing changing ones mind and its relativity to all political parties representatives and whether changing their minds means they are fibbing or telling porkies OR just being downright plain human beings!
I brought it up in response to your post …. and I have said it many times throughoutcovid 000's flaunted the rules with garden parties . parties christmas get togethers etcetc .. none of them got punished ... WHY? ... because their neighbours didnt go to police, unlike those that video'd it and maybe had anaxe to grind ... those at the party BTW werecivil servants so all different party supporters You tried to justify what he did, it’s you that twist things. Why can’t you just admit he lied, he has previous as R&W pointed out, and when he was found out he tried to blame everyone else, and then tried to discredit the committee. Changing your mind as a politician is fine, I’ve said that many times, although you are always criticising Kier for doing it, lying isn’t . As I’ve pointed out Boris is a proven liar.
what bit about .......... ITS OLD HAT we all know what was said and done and all that followed. what part of this is difficult to understand? I merely reiterate what is said in Parliament on a lot of things ... never actually call / called Starmer a liar ... just rich on hindsight boobs ...
Read my post , I didn’t say you called Kier a liar , I said you criticise him for changing his mind. The old hat bit I bring up because you seem obsessed and still keep trying to justify what Boris did,he lied, (again), there is no justification I don’t know if you saw the committee questioning him about the parties and whether he’d lied to parliament, I saw some of it, although even I couldn’t sit through it all, he really couldn’t see what he’d done wrong, although it was obvious how the ruling was going to go as the committee pointed out several occasions when he hadn’t been honest with his answers in parliament . He wouldn’t take responsibility for anything, he really didn’t like his judgment or actions being questioned. He just doesn’t think the rules apply to him. I’m personally glad he’s no longer our PM, Rischi isn’t my cup of tea either, but I at least think he believes what he’s doing is in the country’s best interest, with Boris I always had the thought was it the country’s best interest, or Boris own interests he had at heart.
That’s very cynical , I’m sure many of them go into it for good reasons, but to get on they have to be pushy and ambitious. The adversarial nature of politics doesn’t help either. The decent ones just get shouted down.
We seem to have achieved new levels of bad behaviour and outright corruption over recent years and both main parties are now totally untrustworthy imho The amount of inappropriate name calling in the commons and via the media has also plumbed new depths compared to what it was not that long ago, when people would cordially agree to disagree Now it’s all out hatred
