Off Topic God Bless America

Land of the free, free to shoot their own children, free to let their own children kill other children, and still take the time to preach to the rest of the world the self-righteousness of their own way of life.

Just how many more children in the next 10, 20, 30 years, will face the wrong end of the barrel of a gun before they give up their 17th century constitutional right to bear arms?

In the meantime, lets lower a few flags and express deepest sorrow for the latest slaughter of the innocents.

 

Interesting that the attacker didn't shoot themselves. Death penalty?

 

Don’t really know what’s happened because I’m not following the news out here. But guessing another mass shooting has occurred ?

Without even going into the details of this incident, one startling fact in the US is that more children die each year of gunshot wounds inflicted either by themselves or a sibling, due to firearms being left around the house than any terrorist incident against US citizens.

I like the USA and I like Americans. I’ve met a lot of them and I’ve travelled a fair bit of the east and west coast. They are good people with a generally positive and cheery outlook on life. But their guns laws are totally ****ed up.

 

It certainly is a country to be careful in. My first visit around the Canadian border saw the traffic held up while the police dealt with a multiple shootings and were checking all the cars as a consequence. Pretty scary for a first time.

 

Trump sends his cynical ‘Thoughts and Prayers’. Yeah, right!

America doesn’t doesn’t need your platitudes, you prick! They need you to do something to stop this senseless, wholly avoidable slaughter of your country’s future.

Posted in anger and frustration, rather than any hope of change.

 

Get your point but it was the Yanks who voted for him. They knew what they were getting. It isn't just down to Trump, what about the previous presidents who refused to ban guns? Tbh mate, I couldn't give a **** what happens over there.

 

Obama tried, tried quite hard - but the republican senate, driven by NRA lobbying and money, blocked every attempt.

Trump won’t even try, he’s made it clear that he’s in the NRA’s back pocket.

 

In Texas? Hell yeah....

They love an execution in Texas.

5,000 deaths from shootings so far this year in the US. **** all to do with loads of guns though, obviously.....

 

As is any president. It will never happen, it's too engrained into their culture.

 

I think the media have a fixation with guns in America, don't get me wrong it's a terrible situation, but surely there is political agendas behind this other than the media actually caring. So why do i say that, well if you consider the population of the UK is what around 70M and the US around 326M, then they dwarf us in comparison...yet we have a higher murder rate in London then places like New York, the closest in population terms that you can draw an equivalent 8.5-9M people.

So why does this lot not make more frequent news and sensational headlines as in comparison to our American cousins;

Fatal stabbings in London, 2018

• January 1 - Steve Frank Navarez-Jara, 20, Islington
• January 3 - Elizabeta Lacatusu, 44, Redbridge
• January 8 - Daniel Frederick, 34, died in Hackney
• January 9 - Dami Odeyingbo, 18, stabbed in Bromley
• January 11 - Harry Uzoka, 25, killed in Shepherd's Bush
• January 28 - Yaya Mbye, 26, stabbed in Stoke Newington
• January 29 - Juan Olmos Saca, 39, stabbed in Peckham
• January 31 - Khader Saleh, 25, stabbed at Wormwood Scrubs prison
• February 3 - Hassan Ozcan, 19, knifed in Barking
• February 3 - Kwabena Nelson, a youth worker, died after being stabbed near his home in Tottenham
• February 8 - Hannah Leonard, 55, stabbed in a flat in Camden
• February 11 - Sabri Chibani, 19, stabbed in Streatham
• February 13 - Saeeda Hussain, 54, was stabbed in Ilford
• February 14 - Lord Promise Nkenda, 17, stabbed in Canning Town
• February 18 - Lewis Blackman, 19, knifed in Kensington
• February 19 - Rotimi Oshibanjo, 26, stabbed in Southall
• February 20 - Sadiq Mohammed, 20, stabbed in Camden
• February 20 - Abdikarim Hassan, 17, stabbed in Camden
• February 25 - Michael Boyle, 44, stabbed in the chest
• March 1 - Christopher Beaumont, 42, stabbed in Hammersmith
• March 5 - Laura Figueira, 47, stabbed in Twickenham
• March 5 - Kelva Smith, 20, knifed in Croydon
• March 14 - Lyndon Davis, 18, stabbed in Chadwell Heath
• March 16 - Naomi Hersi, 36, found with stab wounds at hotel near Heathrow Airport
• March 17 - Russell Jones, 23, stabbed in Enfield
• March 18 - Tyrone Silcot, 41, stabbed in Hackney
• March 19 - Balbir Johal, 48, knifed in Southall
• March 19 - A 41-year-old was stabbed to death in Waltham Forest
• March 20 - Beniamin Pieknyi, 21, stabbed at Stratford shopping centre
• March 26 - David Potter, 50, stabbed in Tooting
• March 29 - Reece Tshoma, 23, stabbed in Plumstead
• March 30 - Leyla Mtumwa, 36, found with stab wounds at a home in Haringey
• April 1 - A 20-year-old was stabbed in Wandsworth
• April 4 - A 38-year-old man was stabbed at a house in Lewisham
• April 4 - Israel Ogunsola, 18, was stabbed to death in Hackney on 4 April. Police were alerted by a motorist and performed first aid but the teenager died at the scene
• April 5 - Five teenagers and one man were stabbed in London within a space of 24 hours. One of the victims was aged 13 and left fighting for his life
• April 9 - A man in his 70s was stabbed four times and robbed as he returned to his Harold Hill home after collecting his pension
• April 12 - A woman in her 20s was arrested after stabbing a man in Isle of Dogs on April 12, 2018.
• April 15 - A man named locally as Raul Nicolaie was knifed to death just before 6pmin Colindale, North London.
• April 15 - Samantha Clarke, 38, was stabbed to death in Brixton, South West London, just after 6.30pm and police arrested a man in his 20s.
• April 20 - Aaron Springett, 32, died after he was found collapsed in Morden, South West London, just before 1o.30pm. A 31-year-old was arrested on suspicion of murder.
• April 21 - A man, 20, was stabbed to death in Finsbury Park, north London, as a leading surgeon warned of a "summer of carnage" in the capital
• May 17 - A man, 24, was stabbed to death in Crows Road, Barking at around 11.30pm.

 

This is all Trump's fault.

 

Knives are easy to conceal. AR 15’s are not. And they’re probably easier to buy overrate.

 

I'm not disagreeing with you but I am playing devils advocate here and above...I've not even included UK gun crime in my above figures. So we take all the guns off Americans and turn them to knives instead, five times as many knives that would equate to in comparison to the UK. Do we really think it would make any difference to the death rate overall. 326M looney Americans killing with knives, as you say that can be easily concealed. I suppose at least with knives it don't make such sensational wild west headlines for the media.

 

Turn American's from guns to knives, great idea...

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Here’s the real picture. London is just one part of the UK. This is happening all over America.

 

America at it's finest...

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As i said above, turn them to knives instead, fantastic idea

 

Believe it or not, it would dramatically reduce their murder rates.

 

At least it would destroy the medias ability of wild west headlines. This is the problem with our tiny little island, we get drawn into sensational headlines. How many people have been butchered in the Congo...best get the TV cameras over there and film live coverage as it happens.

Anyway I've made my point, off out know, as i said just playing devils advocate.

 

Yeah they execute more than any other state don't they? By quite some distance iirc.