My personal favourite was RVP's vs Everton. For me, that just gets the nod ahead of his goal against Liverpool, but only just. I prefer these 2 goals over Crouch's simply because RVP clearly meant that shot and Crouch may have just been hoping for the best. For Spurs, my contenders would be Walker's goal yesterday, Modric vs Liverpool, Bale vs Norwich and City and Vdv vs Blackburn (2nd goal in away game) And Adebayor's against Stoke........
Benny's vs Everton was great but the reason I didn't mention it in any of my suggestions was due to it taking a deflection off Cahill, so wasn't sure if it could be classed as a genuine strike if you see what I mean. Bale's vs City was brilliant, was right above that one when it went in, we all started taking the p*ss out of City by doing the Poznan... Just a shame we couldn't end up coming away from that game with anything, totally hard done by, Balotelli shouldn't have been on the pitch to take the penalty. Rafa's 2nd vs Blackburn at Ewood was a sweet strike too!
come on now Lotak..Crouchie meant that totally...as did Van Persie as they both went for goal..after that its all about luck and the keeper...surely Van Persie didnt mean his shot to go in and knew it would? as oppose to Crouchie hoping for the best? im not choosing an outright winner as i dont think every goal is the same and requires diffrent bits of skill...but some are just amazing outright winners with great tekkers..Walkers free kick was as good as execution as we will see..and the likes of Zidane,Messi.Maradona would struggle to better that from impact to at the back of the net...yet people disect as if there is a diffrence and angles and positioning...i refuse to partake in this..instead i am going to update my Spurs shopping list and add Ever Banega of Valencia to the cart..especially if little wooden shin pads Modric decides that he is too good for us!
Well RVP clearly knew what he was doing since he successfully managed to recreate the technique (more or less) with his goal against Liverpool. The goal he scored is an "RVP type goal" for me. I honestly do not believe that Crouch could recreate that goal if he had another 99 attempts at it, whereas I'm certain RVP could. That being said, if the roles were reversed, I'd probably use the same argument to justify Crouch's goal (scored by RVP) being goal of the season over RVP's goal (scored by Crouch). I am being overly cynical here, and I possibly have an agenda against Crouch. If you simply take the goal on its own and not the person that scored it, Crouch's goal is better. I know I've just twisted my own argument, but I'm man enough to admit to favouritism. As much as I don't like it, being a Spurs fan, I really, really, really like RVP. I think he is a technically gifted footballer and an incredible finisher. Shame he has the most punchable face in the Premier League.
Crouchie's was even more brilliant because the ball doesn't touch the ground from the keeper's kick to the back of the net, not even Howard's can compete with that! It's also brilliant how "Stoke" the goal is, as it still all comes from a hoof upfield to Crouch to flick on before a moment of very "un-Stoke" exquisite tecnique. I guess it's not being eulogised about by some people because Crouch scored it, rather than someone seen as more befitting of a magnificent goal. If Messi scored that, he meant it and he's a genius, whilst poor old Crouch was probably trying to head the ball and slipped.
Crouch definitely doesn't get enough credit for scoring good goals. His overhead kicks would be drooled about, if they had been scored by Rooney, for example. [video=youtube;zhjFlHHZ5Yw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhjFlHHZ5Yw[/video] [video=youtube;yyrzlKxUonY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyrzlKxUonY[/video] EDIT: He also got one for Portsmouth against Stoke, which I can't even find footage of.
but i suppose this could be the other side of the argument. - Messi could do it again, that's the difference. could Crouch? some could say it may be seen as a lucky goal, and is a lucky goal worthy of goal of the season? I think this is what Lotak is getting at. (if I've understood him correctly). for me it's a lovely goal, but it could have gone anywhere. that fact, I can't get away from, even though I do really like crouchey! I mentioned this earlier,this isn't a bad effort. great passing before the goal too! [video=youtube;X2zZGPdB0v4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2zZGPdB0v4[/video]
Sorry PNP, they are no match for this! (I saw this live by the way, probably the best goal I've ever witnessed.) [video=youtube;nfNoELP39Bc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfNoELP39Bc[/video]
but when one chooses a goal of the season then you dont ask questions like 'will they do it again'...how can that take away from the technique,build up,finish etc of the goal in question? it is about judging the goal that was....and Crouchie's was as good as any this year.
i dont see how you can seperate them for technique.....only thing diffrent for me is that Crouch had an instinctive shot as oppose to Suarez who looked up..and weighed the shot to a tee..but both were great tekkers. and earlier on a few were arguing about luck and thats why they said RVP goal against Everton was better..because he could do it again..i disagree with this perception..however those that dont will surely use their logic and pick Suarez's third over Crouchie's since Suarez can create alot of great goals...as oppose to Crouch.
I see what you're saying dona, and I agree. The only beef I've got with the crouch goal is that I watched it, and thought "wow" ...and immediately thought "But lucky" afterwards. there shouldn't be a "but". i think its the way he just didn't even look up, and just hit it. Don't get me wrong, it's a superb goal. but as you've said.. there's been a **** fest over it and other goals are being overlooked, with just as good technique involved.
without a doubt there was luck....without a doubt RVP is a better player as is Suarez...but that is the beauty of football..that even a Sunday league player can have a moment in a match which would be described as 'world class'. that is why we come back for more week after week.....even if we get battered..we come back to support our team in the hope of some magic. COYS!
Basically Crouch and other players who aren't considered skillful could never win goal of the season in some people's eyes. Atleast unless he scored a similar goal in the same season to prove it wasn't a fluke. Call me crazy but I think the goal of the season should be the best goal scored that season using factors like uniqueness, build up play, individual brilliance and difficulty. Maybe the importance of the goal could play a part in close run ones too but being able to do it again, if anything, takes away from it for me.
I've seen that Crouch goal so many times I'm fed up of seeing it! I prefer the sort of goals Ben Arfa has scored personally, there's more skill involved. I'm not saying Crouch's goal was all luck with no technique, because there was plenty of the latter, but I just don't think he'd score too many more of them if he tried
But Yid Vicious is right, I hate how some players automatically win goal of the season because of their name. For example the Shearer goal a few years ago, thumping volley yes. But I bet there was some absolute stunners that also could of won it that year who aren't household names perhaps
I agree with YY about what should be goal of the season. I think that a team goal, like Cambiasso in WC 06, or a goal of individual brilliance like Ben Arfa against Bolton, Bale against Stoke or Rooney vs Man City should get goal of the season. It really disappointed me when (I think he got it anyway) Figueroa got goal of the season for his free kick goal from the half way line. Sure its a goal that doesn't happen very often, but that isn't a goal that wows me. Unfortunately, and I am also involved in this, the name of the goal scorer does have a huge impact on its press and media coverage and that impacts on its consideration for goal of the season.
In many ways that Figueroa freekick deserved it, I felt. If they set up a hoop just 20 yards away from where he hit it to show the area he had to get it into for it to go in, I think you'd be more impressed too but maybe you're right that one sweet strike of the ball shouldn't be enough. I thought Rooney's did win it though?
That free kick was a few years back. Rooney's did win it last year though. People are impressed by different types of goals. Some appreciate the crisp passing move that culminates in an average goal (like Dempsey vs Wolves), others prefer a mazy run that ends in a good finish (Ben Arfa vs Bolton), some prefer the spectacular volley (Crouch vs City), some the sweet curl (Young vs Spurs/Arsenal) and others like the over head/scissor kicks (Coates vs QPR). It all boils down to what type of goal a person appreciates more.
