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  1. luvgonzo

    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    Were Man City in transition when they won the league and spent big? No they were expected to win it again.
     
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  2. Zanjinho

    Zanjinho Boom! Forum Moderator

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    Transition is about changing personnel, it's got nothing to do with how much money you may or may not spend
     
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  3. luvgonzo

    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    The thread smells badly of excuses, we won the league and spent a fortune on the back of it we're not in transition we're league champions who have spent big to win the league again and become a dominant force. Transition sounds like an excuse for if we fail.
     
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  4. LuisDiazgamechanger

    LuisDiazgamechanger Dribbles

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    Some commentators believe we seriously miss Trent Alexander-Arnold. If he gets injured are we not going to survive?.Trent had become part of history, we have to open another chapter.
     
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  5. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    Mate you can't lose your whole forward line and a key part of your defense and claim you're the same force that won the league.

    In simple terms, transition is changing quickly from one thing/system to another which is exactly what we're doing. Just like an in-game transition that leads to a fast break and a goal, the team has changed quickly from what it was to something different with, hopefully, the change of direction leading to the same destination.

    Transition doesn't have to be an excuse, like you are suggesting. It can also be a conduit to success.
     
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  6. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I dont believe in mentality monster and klopp.

    Why?

    2 absolutely stinking seasons in the great times.

    Its easy talk about mentality when you are in theres with a clear target to win big.

    The team.let someone equalise and then boom. They go for it and score. There's some mentality there.

    What you need is senior players like milner and henderson and salah amd vvd.

    Real leaders to drive the dressing room and I feel.as though tje real test of slot and Hughes is that next generation leaders.
     
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  7. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    You claim not to believe in mentality monsters then go on to talk about the leaders in the team who embody the very thing you claim not to believe in. They were/are those leaders because of their mentality. They are the mentality monsters.

    Plenty of teams have seniors who don't possess that quality. It's what set us apart.
     
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  8. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Leaders are leaders.

    Not everyone is one.

    That's the point.

    The entire 11 wont be leaders, thry can drop the head in a game. The 25 can see some slacking off in training knowing thry dont get a game.

    That's the point.

    The senior players have a huge role in getting these players in line for the manager.

    When youve a chiesa or an endo they can not play and might struggle in a game but they give everything.

    But then youve a konate who will stop and shrug if they feel one twinge and let a goal.in.

    Youve a player like gomez who will stink the place out on his chance.

    Senior leaders and ensuring the group is professional is half the battle.

    But you could tell at times players didn't really believe they could win something and sometimes honestly they turn up and look dross like the league cup final

    Mentality is from minute 1 not from the minute they equalise or score first. You need the leaders driving it.
     
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  9. LuisDiazgamechanger

    LuisDiazgamechanger Dribbles

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    I believe Konate is unsettled, if he eventually leaves Liverpool it can be the greatest mistake of his life. Having said that, Liverpool's back line are currently not performing.
     
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  10. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Yes its true

    The Madrid fans will turn fairly quick.

    The amount of support he gets for doing some fairly basic strong defending here is mad.
     
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  11. luvgonzo

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    Think I'll leave this thread well alone.
     
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  12. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    Your contribution are always valued here.
     
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    Well there's the theory that if everybody's a leader then nobody's a leader. We have/had a good number of them. They set the example.

    You could tell when players didn't really believe. Wow. That's some skill.

    Having a winning mentality doesn't mean you always win and it isn't something that you turn on and off. It's there from minute one, it's not magic that somehow makes you perfect in every game. Players aren't machines.
     
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  14. Ivan Dobsky

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    More Options at the foot of the thread. Untick the box options.

    Happy to help. :emoticon-0139-bow:
     
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    Zanjinho Boom! Forum Moderator

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    It's not an excuse if it's factual mate. However, I never claimed we were in transition, just responded to your comment dismissing it.

    Imo, we're going through a blip because of various reasons but we'll come good and ****ing smash'em all :emoticon-0165-muscl
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    But thats a bad theory as proven by mam utd's squad and by plauers like konate who simply are not nor never will be a leader.

    You can list them out.

    Trent would have been a terrible captain. Both onto he field and the dressing room.

    Nunez? Woeful. You can see his head dropped last year understandably and while he ran aboit and was loved for running aboit leadership wasnt happening.

    Same.for.gomez.

    They all.need vvd stood beside them.

    They all need someone to put manners on them and keep them in line.

    Like, salah would be an awful captain too. He's an ego. Like fernandes and he does have that ego and he does give the good advice but he's never going to be the one handing out fines and never opens his mouth on the field.
     
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  19. mighty_stevie_g

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    People lead in different ways, no one is more dedicated than Salah for example and that sets the example through the week and says ‘wanna get close to what I’ve achieved? Follow suit’

    It’s certainly not just about bollocking people
     
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    I’m don’t get the discussion really. We are clearly in transition. Even if we’d just bought Isak, we’d still be in transition. He alone changes our style of play. As does Wirtz - the full backs need to learn a new system and new patterns of play with new team mates. Everyone does.

    this is not defeatist. It is not capitulation or excuse making….it is just what it is.

    PSG took a few weeks to click last year but when they did, we all knew about it.

    just chill :emoticon-0103-cool:
     
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