Superhoop - I think you are spot on. The man clearly needs taking down a peg or two and City are rich enough to do that. I don't think Warnock would want him but then who knows...? Rebel - Thank you. Wordsworth fan? Visited his home in Northern Lakes in the summer. My favourite of his work is 'Michael'. Awesome. Apologies to non poet footie fans!!
Tevez refusal to come off the bench can't be justified but looking at reasons, the guy hasn't been happy at Man City for some time - I suspect it's personal between him and Mancini, and I don't think Mancini is the greatest man manager-motivator. Tevez's play can be close to genius at times and he's a prima donna of the Adel Terror-bat variety. We couldn't afford him, but if we could, I think NW would have him playing with a smile on his face in no time.
While I don't agree with Tevez's actions last night, I can't help but feel sorry for him and his situation outlines what damage clubs like Man City are doing for football. Tevez is in an awful situation where he no longer wants to stay in the country as his family still lives in Argentina, so it is understandable that he wants to leave. The problem is that no club can possibly afford him and City wont sell him at a cut price figure. This situation will happen more often at city and they'll be left with a massive wage bill of players who keep the bench warm unless they bite the bullet and drop their price to help players move on. It's all very well and good having the money to 'Buy' success, but you will ruin peoples careers if you don't help them move on if they don't work out.
I am thankful that our new owners and manager have a great deal of common sense and footballing know how between them. Hopefully will never see a similar situation at LR.
City are simply now reaping what they've sown, they have spent three years throwing ludicrous transfer fees and wages at, often, less than superstar players. They clearly have also tapped up certain players, as have Chelsea, but our wonderful FA choose to spend more time gagging referees from commenting on their 'mistakes' than confronting the big clubs. Would they have handled the Faurlin case as cack-handedly had it been one of the big guns? City's laughable sponsorship deals which are very 'incestuous' to say the least are a prime example of the powers-that-be don't want to risk financially exposing themselves should they take on these clubs and lose in court. City and the other top clubs have been walking all over the smaller clubs for years, often buying top players so their rivals can't have them rather than to strengthen already strong squads. Now, with a bunch of mercenary prima-donnas sticking their middle finger up at the manager it will be interesting to see what develops. This was supposed to be City's grand entrance to the top European stage, instead, like so many other things in the era of Gary Cook, they've been humiliated and made a laughing-stock. There will be little sympathy for the club everyone wants to see fall flat on their expensive faces...
Sorry, I've had enough of these footballers and Tevez (who I've admired for his tireless work ethic) is the worst of the lot. Homesick? He played in Manchester for 2 years BEFORE he signed a 4-5 year deal for City. Why would you do that if you were missing the motherland that much? Professionallly, you'd have a quiet word with the manager and let him know the situation and, if genuine, he'll appreciate your motives. If you change you're reasons for wanting out - blaming owners etc like Tevez. Then the club will think you're negotiating and either hold on for the best transfer price or see if your misgivings can be bought by a more lucrative contract (Rooney, we're looking at you here). If you don't like things, DO NOT vent your frustrations by taking a place on the bench and then refusing to respect your teammates or honour your fans who, despite the new ownership, have been supporting the club through the mire and waiting hopefully for success for 30 odd years (a bit like QPR fans have). Oh, and for you mad people who want him here, why would he move only a couple of hundred miles closer to Argentina and why would we want to pay someone millions of pounds to NOT play for us when he's currently not playing for us for NOTHING? Rant over. Deep breath.
I can't believe there are people who were ready to welcome a player with a criminal record for violence but who would then say no to one of the best strikers in the modern game on the grounds that he had a tif with his manager. Twisted morality indeed. I had serious reservations about Barton but he is increasingly looking like one of the shwedest pieces of transfer business the club has ever done. The risk regarding Tevez would be small potatoes alongside that however. Not that he would come to us of course but if I was Fernades and NW I would definitely have the feelers out just in case.
This isn't about a player who has a record, it's about a player being paid the highest wage of any PL player refusing to play when his side needed him on the pitch. How would you feel if we were 2-0 down needing a point to stay up and, for example, Taarabt refused to come off the bench? he'd be crucified by everyone on here and rightly so...
Surely if he did refuse to play (and there are now mixed stories coming out about this) he has broken his contract. The club can dismiss him and sue him to get back the money he would have been worth had he been sold. If he doesn't pay up then City apply to Fifa for a ban.
And how would we feel if Joey head-butted the referee? Hopefully this kind of thing will never happen but its a background risk that we seem able to deal with without too much trouble. And yet another player with 'personal issues' is considered completely out-of-bounds because he appears to have crossed some kind of line if football's bizarre morality code. This is all fantasy of course but I'd readily accept the low risk of a repeat performance if it meant we could add one of the world's best strikers to the teamsheet next Saturday.
I'm sorry mate,but with Tevez it isn't low risk.This guy has no loyalty to any club he's ever been at,just ask United fans.It wouldn't take him long before he wanted to piss off from us to another club.If he misses his family that much why doesn't he **** off and play in Brazil.I'm afraid with him it's all about me,me,me,just a big egotistical arrogant ****er.Thank **** were never gonna be able to afford his wages!
Brilliant piece on this in the Telegraph,where the journo says Tevez didn't want to come off the bench because it was closer to his family than the pitch was!!he he
No excuse, but I suspect that Mancini is a bit of a prick, with bad man management. Just the impression I get, wrong guy in that job.
He won the Italian title several years in a row for Inter, it was basically his team that won the CL for Mourinho. Having said that, I think he has little control over transfers at City - the owners just buy who they fancy on the day- and is obviously paid a fortune not to rock the boat. So may be wrong man - other than Mourinho not sure who would be good for that situation. But there is also something strange about England - the overall behaviour of players, of what ever nationality, just seems to degenerate when they get here on the big money. You just don't hear of this kind of off the pitch crap with Real, Barca or AC Milan players. Might be something to do with the ludicrous media coverage here - in Spain and Italy this is much more focussed on a couple of (excellent) daily sports papers. Tevez, meanwhile is clearly a couple of slices shy of a loaf, but I would have him at R's tomorrow. Also slightly relieved it's not going to happen.
He is world class on the pitch but such a destructive influence off it..on loan then as soon as he starts let joey kick his arse.
