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Given recent threads, fair does big Ron

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by Toss saints, Dec 26, 2015.

  1. st_brendy

    st_brendy Well-Known Member
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    And then you have the fans of Newcastle, Villa and Sunderland - three big clubs - who are presumably jealous of all of us. None of those clubs can be called "modern day, 2015 clubs". Just goes to show how important the people who run football clubs are.

    PS. Good post.
     
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  2. San Tejón

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    Great post.
    You could make an argument for Leeds Utd being amongst the top teams, whilst also pointing out what happens when a club becomes "over ambitious", and gets it wrong.

    As I have said before, the Saints have a long term plan to play European football, every season, but unfortunately players only have short term plans, and until/if we achieve the long term plan we will continue to lose our better players to teams above us.
    I'm not a fan of forcing players to stay, because their value drops, as they run their contract down, the fans unfairly criticise them for "not trying", plus you could end up with a scenario like at WBA, where Berahino spends most of his time on the bench, when he should be one of the first names on the team sheet.

    I'm looking forward to seeing what happens to Leicester, at the end of the season.
    If they finish in a CL position, I can see Vardy staying, as a repayment of the faith Leicester placed in him, but I can still see them struggling to keep Mahrez and Kante, if "the big teams" come calling, because they will want to improve their chances of reaching the latter stages of the competition.
    If they finish in the Europa, or lower, then I think they will struggle to keep any of them.
     
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  3. Missing Lambo

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    First, my remark was a joke. I would happily hound people if they demonstrate a callous disregard for human life, but such people are rare in the whole scheme of things. So it was a joke, and I would have hoped it would have been recognised as such. Thank you for giving me a heads up on this and in future I will ensure that I tag any light hearted remark as **JOKE**

    But if you want to get serious ...

    Lovelocum, I was not comparing Tory voters to Labour voters. There are good honest people throughout the political world, but the media promote the image of slime-ball politicians. It's not that they don't exist, but they are not representative of politicians as a whole in my experience.

    Personally I could no more vote Tory than support Portsmouth. I have friends who do one or the other or even both. I understand and respect the fact that their commitment and passion is as strong as mine, unreformed Marxist Saint that I am.

    Finally, take care accusing people of being "santamonious" (sic) then taking a swipe at those who work in the public sector. This is the public sector where the workers are right now providing the health service; where workers are preparing to pick up the reins again and prepare to educate the next generation; where workers are repairing the roads etc etc. This is not a Marxist analysis, it is capitalist logic. In order for capitalism/entrepreneurial spirit to bloom and build the economy there is a need for good infrastructure. A simplistic analysis it may be , but "bosses" need their workers to be healthy, well educated and to be able to travel to their places of work. The state provides these services. Your swipe smacked of sanctimony, which opens you to accusations of hypocrisy. Happy New Year.
     
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  4. Dark Lord SFC

    Dark Lord SFC Well-Known Member

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    Very good post and very logical
    The trouble is we as fans aren't very logical most of the time as we run on emotion.

    PS Thoughts and prayers for your sister and do hope she pulls round real soon
     
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