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  1. Cliftonville

    Cliftonville Well-Known Member

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    No, validity indicates factually sound, having a basis in logic.

    You are being illogical and factually incorrect because you are stating that Reform are comparable to parties that were based upon racism. Reform clearly are multi racial and do not want to turn the UK into a homogenous ethno state - Fact.

    You think otherwise but will not, or cannot articulate why, but then insult others when challenged. You are a knob, a microscopic one.
     
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    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    And you are a supercilious knob
     
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  3. Cliftonville

    Cliftonville Well-Known Member

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    Your a *****phile with a microscopic knob.

    Why? I do not have say why. All opinions are valid AshtonRed 20/02/25.

    Supercilious can be applied to the Labour MP. She thinks her world view is really superior to others. Reform cannot be comparable to the BNP, or NF.
     
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    Damn you found me out. <laugh><laugh>
     
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  5. Red Robin

    Red Robin Well-Known Member

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    <laugh><laugh><laugh>
     
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  6. Red Alert

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    Your not pointing anything its been pointed out that Reform cant be the NF and BNP because they are not racist fascists so if they can be explain why?? the topic isnt so funny when you have family whove been on the end of it !! my mrs parents are not English reform did nothing and have nothing to them and their supportive of reform!!
     
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  7. realred1952

    realred1952 Well-Known Member

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    Any chance of an answer? Interested to know! or was it a throwaway comment?
     
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  8. AshtonRed

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    If your going to quote me at least quote the whole sentence
     
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  9. Cliftonville

    Cliftonville Well-Known Member

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    You have failed to point anything out, if you fail to address the points being made. Why don't you answer the posters question here?
    Reform cannot be compared to the BNP and the NF because? Well Reform are not based upon ethnic and racial primacy. Proof you can clearly see its Chairman is not white, unlike the NF and BNP. Farage's wife is not English, Mr Farage and his wife would not be accepted into the BNP and NF. Reforms members include differing races, and ethnicities who would not be accepted into the into the BNP and NF.

    AshtonRed could the Labour party be compared to the BNP and NF? Yes? No? Why?
     
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  10. Red Robin

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    Another local election in Wales gone to Reform -well done people want change Labour are history in Wales no longer wanted :1980_boogie_down::1980_boogie_down::1980_boogie_down:


    Reform UK Wales

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    Llongyfarchiadau / Congratulations to Jackie Thurley on winning the Llandudno Mostyn Ward Town Council by-election!
    Another step towards real change for Wales.
    Wales needs Reform.
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    Congratulations to Jackie Thurley on winning the Llandudno Mostyn Ward Town Council by-election!
    Another step towards real change for Wales.

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  11. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    Years and years and years of Labour mismanagement in Wales and like a lot of other Councils too, and this is what we’ll hopefully start seeing all over the UK now
    Change is coming I hope
     
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  12. Red Alert

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    answered the first part of your post the rest was you ignoring what others post. heres the sketch again its been pointed out that Reform cant be the NF BNP because they are not racist fascists so if they can be explain how the hell does that sketch work???

    i'm fearing he wont be getting it.


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  13. wizered

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    I'm still a convinced, middle of the road Conservative, old school. I personally regard Reform as my number 2 choice but are to be honest a one trick pony, I don't think I'm a far right racist and I hate Starmer and his crew absolutely, they lie, are decietful and completely untrustworthy.

    Reform are cretainly not racist but like me are proud of our country and history, unfortunately they are perpepuated through inadvertance by looney. leftwing, smug knowall wokies, next time I'm convinced the left will suffer a blood bath by the voters and they will be vanquished and thank god.
     
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  14. Red Robin

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    I was wiz but they betrayed us-new hope with @reformuk getting my votes and the family's.
     
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    He will be along in a minute to explain in depth why Reform wanting low taxation, privatisation, deregulation, controls on immigration, while rolling back the frontiers of the state are comparable to ultra nationalistic, nativist xenophobes, using his articulate deep political and historical perspective.

    Or he might just start posting knob again.
     
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  16. realred1952

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    RR..YOU ARE an instant person, most things you [ occassionally you dig up something from past ] you post on are "now" stripped of any of the pluses or negatives that surrounded them! you become attached to a negative aspect and dont see beyond that, in so much as things from that negative aspect may get BETTER oooorr worse!

    take 14 years of ...well in that time we all know the pitfalls financially that befell the tory party... they inherited "a true blackhole" many times bigger than what Rattlesnake is trying to get past the public now ... that has a lot of very experienced fiscal experts doubting there was one .. but she instantly started to reinforce the case for one by by adding some £9,000,000,000 or more to what was already "earmarked" for needing to pay NHS AND RAILWAY DRIVERS!

    Tories 2010 AFTER getting rid the blackhole and a lot of the debt ... called austerity over a period of 8-9 years close to £600,000,000,000 or more ripped from their hands sorting COVID AND ENERGY CRISIS
    600,000,000,000
    20,000,000,000
    COMPARE the covid +energy against rattlesnakes "self helped blackhole" an impressive erosion of 580,000,000,000 in 2 years!!! you cant make figures up . tories were on the right track clever Rishi did a Bliar jumped ship when everything was ok and going well.... and left it to the morons to screw it up. The british public were blindsided by WHAT " always sells and mostly sticks, generated bad news" and the continuos PERSONAL/ people bashing BY the opposition gave to the tories [ along with the other parties jumping on board because they wanted seats at next GE ]

    SO QUESTION IS RR "what did Labour bring to the table over 14, and what after 14 years of knowing they might one day be back in .gov have planned / costed/ ETC's ....................... N O T H I N G NOTHING but personal attacks . and an unique way to answer questions or problems by phraseology like " 14 years..crashed the .... left a blackhole .... or of course personal attacks on the individuals "

    GE TOMORROW who would I vote .....?....... for probably greens as it would mean THE OTHER 4 PARTIES DONT GET A VOTE THAT WOULD HELP THEM
     
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  17. Angelicnumber16

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    We all know that Labour, despite 14 years of waiting for their chance have brought nothing but bad decisions, no terrible decisions since last July
    They may have been better at fiscal matters but the Tories are responsible for millions of unwanted people coming into this country and causing us all problems from strains on services we pay for and for acts of hate and terrorism
    So saying they’ve learned their lessons over immigration won’t work in 4 years time as people won’t fall for it again, at least I, and I suspect many millions of others won’t either
     
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  18. Red Robin

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    Greens <doh> have a look at what Carla and her cronies are doing to Bristol destroying it beyond recognition.
     
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  19. Red Robin

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    RR..YOU ARE an instant person, most things you [ occassionally you dig up something from past ] you post on are "now" stripped of any of the pluses or negatives that surrounded them! you become attached to a negative aspect and dont see beyond that, in so much as things from that negative aspect may get BETTER oooorr worse!
    When i see the country i grew up in being destroyed by CONS and LIEBOUR over the last 20 years to a point our towns and cities are unsafe-children being killed-woman being raped-men being killed or maimed by the swarm that has been allowed onto our shores then it is time for change.

    @REFORMUK are the only party that are clearly saying change is required and i trust them to do it- instant person no i am a concerned british citizen our country needs change for our kids and grand kids this country is third world and it needs sorting fast.
     
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  20. realred1952

    realred1952 Well-Known Member

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    RR CRIME IS AN NEVER ENDING FACT OF LIFE.............. it doesnt really matter who is charge, it is but a snapshot in a much bigger picture ... its root causes and roots of its being... granted according to the stats thinly available to the public the majority of crimes etc can be attributed to a minority of sources [ race/culture/religion/etc ] ... one side wants cheap labour/ another side wants less immigrant population [ illegal or otherwise sorced ] another side doesnt want to work another side hell bent on crime the easy option ... it goes on and on............

    ALL parties have it on their agenda but would be ridiculous if they all have it at the top! ...... THATS WHY PRESENT Labour .gov is smoking over the illegals and like a headless chicken juggling all the .government ghostly priorities in non functioning "as a group departments" !!!!
     
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