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  1. Cliftonville

    Cliftonville Well-Known Member

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    If the right honourable member of parliament was asked to articulate whats she means, her head would explode. The purpose of paralleling Reform to the NF and BNP is to malign them, and stigmatise them as sick and twisted as the NF and BNP are.

    This a tool of the lefts culture war, if you do not agree with us you are unintelligent, thick, racist etc.

    The party was created to support the working class, a working class whose values they do not share, or are disdainful towards. The end result is the Labour party has created a gaping chasm between itself and what were its natural supporters, and working class people very frequently no longer see the Labour party as their party, and have abandoned Labour in millions.

    The Labour party consider themselves the elite. An elite that looks down upon others. Elitist snobs!
     
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  2. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    Absolute tosh !
     
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  3. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    Spot on !!
     
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  4. Cliftonville

    Cliftonville Well-Known Member

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    If you are playing devils advocate then it is you who would be providing the supportive case. So what is your argument?
     
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  5. Red Robin

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    Perfect response<applause><applause><applause>
     
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    correct, not just lost it over the last 3-4 years but over the last 2 decades...........
     
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  7. Cliftonville

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    If we were to look at the membership and the make up of the Labour party of twenty five years ago, and that of the trade union movement, then compare this to now there is a seismic change. There has been a hollowing out of the working class over decades that resembles socio economic cleansing.

    The Labour party does not represent the interests of what they no longer are.
     
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  8. Red Alert

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    hows this work???

    please log in to view this image
     
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  9. Red Robin

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    They don't say anything about this those lefties :emoticon-0136-giggl:emoticon-0136-giggl:emoticon-0136-giggl
     
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  10. AshtonRed

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    Times have changed, I agree years ago, but now it’s completely different.
     
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  11. AshtonRed

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    Nice to see you are open minded <laugh><laugh>
     
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  12. Cliftonville

    Cliftonville Well-Known Member

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    Despite what the Labour MP and the poster AshtonRed think it does not work, and lt is not possible.
     
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  13. Red Alert

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    Or, playing devils advocate, they are correct and it’s you that don’t understand?
     
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  14. AshtonRed

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    Correct, both are possible, that’s my point
     
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  15. Red Alert

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    nope big time they are not both possible Sikhs cant join the BNP or NF and neither could me and my Mrs but I expect they would welcome a racist like you in with with open!!!
     
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  16. Angelicnumber16

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    About as much as you are
     
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  17. Cliftonville

    Cliftonville Well-Known Member

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    If you do not engage with the points made, and you have not, that displays a closed mind not a open one.
     
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  18. AshtonRed

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    You’re entitled to your opinion, I disagree, I’m merely pointing out there different perspectives, each are valid, if you can’t see that I politely suggest yours is the closed mind. Not mine.
     
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  19. Cliftonville

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    You stated you were being a devils advocate, as I think we can rule out you are advocating for the religious canonization of any individual, this would mean you were using devils advocate in its literal modern form to stimulate debate.

    So as you are a devils advocate, could you explain how Reform are comparable to political organisations that advocate ethnic and racial primacy?
     
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  20. AshtonRed

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    Stop being a Kn0b, I’ve merely pointed out different people have different opinions, each are valid.
     
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