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Baw Claw said:
I've never understood the big kick-up from either side of this debate.

Either put money in the tin or don't

If you do; either wear the poppy or don't

Surely that's it?
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I was up in Glasgow on Saturday with mates i have known since i was a boy, a good mix of huns and tims that have never really had an issue with each other about the whole football thing anyway the poppy collectors were out in force so i stuck a few quid change that i had in my pocket and the wee lassie goes to hand me a poppy so i says naw yer awright i dont want one.... <steam> **** me! the pish i had to listen to! from a couple of guys ive known most of my life.
Its about a day of remembrance and all these thick pricks are using it as a point scoring exercise and probably doing the actual charity more harm than good as the more folk that feel bullied into wearing one are going to start questioning why they should.
 
Many,many Irish men and British men fought and died during the first world war. This was fought for the freedom of small nations.
Insisting that everyone must wear the poppy and commemorate by a minutes silence is the direct opposite to the aims of the brave
men who fought and died in the war. I am all for people commemorating their dead but in doing so they should try to avoid hurting
the feelings of others who may not see those heroes in the same light. It isn't only the soldiers who died in the two world wars but
all conflicts which include the wee six and as we know many Celtic fans were killed, maimed and abused by British soldiers. So by all means enjoy your commemoration but don't rub everybody's nose in it whilst doing so.
 
DevAdvocate said:
t.curwood on November 11, 2012 at 10:50 pm said:
Email: [email protected]

Dear Sirs,

We have noted that today, The Celtic football Club have engaged in a most despicable act that would be undertaken by any organization or individual in this country. We would like your comments on why CFC did not show a mark of respect or pay their dues to the fallen of this country by not displaying a poppy on their sports strip.

It is of note that war transcends race, colour, creed , and religion and men of all faiths gave their lives so that we could have our lives, but sadly this appears not to be the case for those who run CFC. It is notable that they CFC were the only club on this island that did not pay any respect, shameful to say the least.

The SFA as a governing body must show leadership and provide an explanation as to CFC’s actions to the Scottish football fans, but most importantly to the Scottish people as a whole.

We await your measured response with the utmost urgency.
regards,
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They did not seriously write that did they? Obviously has no idea what wars are fought for.
 
Biggus Diccus said:
I wear a poppy but, in recent years, I've become uncomfortable with it as I'm not an advocate of claiming every soldier is a "hero" or the way it's used as a paradigm of national identity. Any country that displays its national pride via its armed forces is in dangerous territory IMO.

I support the need to remember people dying in the past in wars - whether they were needlesly slaughtered (WW1) or indeed "to defend our freedoms" (WW2) or in any other conflict in the world.

But, the way it's been used in the previous few years is properly unsettling.

I remember watching the baseball about 12 years ago and Tommy Boyd (TV presenter) slagged the Americans for having a flypast at their national anthem and said that Brits would never celebrate their nationality by using the military - the American guy didn't quite get this.

Fast forward to now and troops are dropping off the matchball at Leicester, some of the more culturally ****ed up clubs have ****ING CANNONS on the pitch and armed combatants surround football pitches around the country - it's not healthy. If it was any other country, you'd see how insane it is.

Have a read at this (if you've not exceded your five story limit):

http://www.heraldscotland.com/mobil...buy-into-politics-of-the-poppy-brand.19254994

Once Remembrance Sunday becomes about Remembrance again and not about chest beating nationalism, I'll feel a lot more comfortable <ok>
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Concur with this entirely.
 
DevAdvocate said:
t.curwood on November 11, 2012 at 10:50 pm said:
Email: [email protected]

Dear Sirs,

We have noted that today, The Celtic football Club have engaged in a most despicable act that would be undertaken by any organization or individual in this country. We would like your comments on why CFC did not show a mark of respect or pay their dues to the fallen of this country by not displaying a poppy on their sports strip.

It is of note that war transcends race, colour, creed , and religion and men of all faiths gave their lives so that we could have our lives, but sadly this appears not to be the case for those who run CFC. It is notable that they CFC were the only club on this island that did not pay any respect, shameful to say the least.

The SFA as a governing body must show leadership and provide an explanation as to CFC’s actions to the Scottish football fans, but most importantly to the Scottish people as a whole.

We await your measured response with the utmost urgency.
regards,
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Someone should remind these people that their club failed twice and over a prolonged period of time to pay taxes, thus denying the Treasury of much needed funds, which could have contributed to the purchase of better quality equipment.

How many service people could be alive today if tax evasion did not happen?
 
DevAdvocate said:
t.curwood on November 11, 2012 at 10:50 pm said:
Email: [email protected]

Dear Sirs,

We have noted that today, The Celtic football Club have engaged in a most despicable act that would be undertaken by any organization or individual in this country. We would like your comments on why CFC did not show a mark of respect or pay their dues to the fallen of this country by not displaying a poppy on their sports strip.

It is of note that war transcends race, colour, creed , and religion and men of all faiths gave their lives so that we could have our lives, but sadly this appears not to be the case for those who run CFC. It is notable that they CFC were the only club on this island that did not pay any respect, shameful to say the least.

The SFA as a governing body must show leadership and provide an explanation as to CFC’s actions to the Scottish football fans, but most importantly to the Scottish people as a whole.

We await your measured response with the utmost urgency.
regards,
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<laugh> that ending is the funniest part
 
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