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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Brucebones, Oct 6, 2021.

  1. Drew

    Drew Well-Known Member

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    That’s exactly why it’s a risk to run.

    Unless the new owners have been found guilty of these things, it’s legally risky to run the picture.

    The article mentions what the banner alleges, but it’s attributed to the banner. There’d be a big difference to publishing the banner itself.
     
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  2. RayVonn

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    What comments are there about race? Seen banners with similar accusations about Israel at demos but the police didn’t investigate.
     
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  3. Drew

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    I didn’t mention race?

    Were these banners published by media or were they just at the demos? There’s a difference.
     
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  4. RayVonn

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    Well I saw them in the media. A quick google will bring plenty of examples up.

    Why are the police investigating it for racism as it doesn’t mention race. Would a banner accusing Germany in 1938 of similar things have had the police investigating it for racism?
     
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    I think it might be libelous but it sure as hell isn't racist
     
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  6. Drew

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    I think we’re discussing different things.

    I was talking about why sections of the media might be risk averse in publishing the banner themselves, rather than what the police should and shouldn’t be investigating.

    I do find the banner a little stereotypical but racist? Not overtly.

    It’s difficult to judge the Israel banners as it will depend on context. Also it is different as it’s accusations being thrown at a state, rather than individual people involved in Newcastle.
     
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  7. highpeak tiger

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    Agreed
     
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    Culturally offensive is one of the accusations being banded about.
     
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    Presumably somebody reported it to the police and alleged it was racist and they have to investigate
    It isn't so that shouldn't take too long
     
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  10. RayVonn

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    Depends on what context? The banner mentions what the.state of Saudi Arabia has done which is pertinent as it basically state money being used in the purchase.
     
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  11. Drew

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    Depends on what the banner says against Israel and how it was published.

    The Saudi Arabian banner is talking about both what the state has done and what the individuals in charge of Newcastle have done.

    They are one and the same but legally this is targeting individuals who also happen to run Saudi Arabia.

    Unless you can prove they are guilty of every single thing on that banner, it’s a risk to publish.

    Im not saying it can’t be published, I’m saying there is a risk.
     
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  12. RayVonn

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    Criticising anyone belonging to certain religions is considered racist even though you , I or anyone else could become members of that religion. Which I think is the case here and why the police are investigating as they are frightened of being accused of racism for not doing so.
     
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    I can remember demos with banners accusing Israel of all sorts of things with no action taken, one saying they are committing genocide. Nothing done about that.
     
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  14. Drew

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    I know. But as I said, if these are published in the media, then it depends on the context it was published in.

    Which banners did they choose to publish? Was there a caption attributed to the picture that gave context to the banner? Was the risk of publishing the banner worth it in the wider scheme of coverage of Israel issues? Did it name individual people, or was it just criticism of the state? Was there a statement from the Israeli government in the article?

    There's many things to consider, rather than 'this was OK to publish so this must be too'.

    Also, you can't compare the two as accusations against Israel are different to accusations against individual people who run both Newcastle United and Saudi Arabia.
     
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    I wouldn’t even say it’s libellous. The people bankrolling the Newcastle takeover are the same ones who chopped up a journalist into little pieces in an embassy.

    That being said, I hope all those criticising the Newcastle takeover show the same consistency when England play in an equally-disgusting and murderous dictatorship next year, and refuse to watch the tournament.
     
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    at least steve bruce isn't a set of murdering bastards. newcastle fans ought to be grateful for that.
     
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    Police say no further action will be taken after a banner displayed by Crystal Palace fans targeted the Saudi Arabian-led takeover of Newcastle United.
     
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    https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...ion-over-crystal-palace-fans-newcastle-banner

    They also displayed the banner in a report about the police investigation. The very newspaper I would say is woke?

    I read a recent article in the gruniard, written by one of the in house legal experts. The decisions to publish or not. All those who have claimed libel on this thread better e mail the paper with their findings, and perhaps tell them the in house expert may have got it wrong.
     
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