Stop trying to be sensible. It won't fool the hard of thinking on here. Simple fact: no one on here knows all of the details of what has or will happen.
So, considering Papa Allam's purchasing declaration of 'a gift, etc.' When do you believe their financial manipulation might be excessive, or greedy? The ASI fund, which was a sum of money they had been paid by the PL and had agreed to spend on away supporters (badly defined, I know), do you think they spent it all, or were they greedy and used it to substitute for routine operating costs? If so, do you consider that in anyway greedy? So you think they are clever? Or just not stupid? I'm only going to use one example - the supporters. Do you think the way, the manner in which they have treated supporters has been intelligent, or even slightly clever? But I did pick up on you edging your bets, so, if you resort to the 'from their point of view' argument, tell me how it benefited them? You don't have to pay particular attention to name-change or seat moves, if you don't want to.
Here's some facts, the Allams have said for over two years that they want to sell the club, a buyer made an offer which would have given them about 30 million profit and its fallen through. Although i have said many times that they didn't want to and wouldn't sell, the potential riches are to much of a draw.
My last post for a while. I think the ASI fund and the way they treat supporters is vindictive. Not greedy or stupid but vindictive.
The 100m asking price would have included the value of the debt, meaning that the Americans would essentially be buying a debt free club. That's my understanding anyway.
More than a tad evasive, as I asked separate and specific questions and you have returned with bollocks. But never mind, let's deal with 50% of the question, as I don't want to test you: Is being knowingly and constructively vindictive, a stupid strategy?
Of course they could do what the Allams did and loan the club money to pay for that debt, meaning we'd be replacing debt to the Allams with debt to the Americans, but who knows.
So to sum up. Obi's wiped the floor with everyone on here. The Yanks didnt/wouldnt/couldnt stump up the cash for what the owners of Hull city want. The owners are stupid/lucky/couldnt run a business. yet are considerably richer by a wide margin than anyone on here. But it must be by luck as they're mentally ill/suffering with Alzheimers/clueless/spoilt you name it. Also they have no idea how to run a club/ know nowt about football but have still got the club promoted twice and have spent more time in the PL than any other owners have. Why the **** they just have this **** membership scheme i dont know.
I may have missed it...there's so much speculation on here (on quite a few related threads too), but has there been any formal statement from either the Grieve led consortium or the present owners of Hull City that this deal is actually dead ?
You could have stated that, on a forum such as this, you always write in 'the vernacular'. Someone on here tried that recently, and it went over ever so well. Really!
Because the first thing the Allams would of done was put up the rent City pays. In any case I am sure there are covenants in place preventing the sale of one without the other. This was to prevent a repeat of yhe Lloyd incident where he locked us out of Boothferry Park.
There has been a sale price of £100M bandied about, so if, for the sake of argument, we accept that as correct, do you believe that includes the £80M debt? Or is the true cost of buying the club £180M, as no one will write the debt off. It seems to be doing a good job of fooling you, which makes your reasoning wrong. It would seem that what Obi doesn't know he will just make up.
