I must have missed the last time, but I'll look forward to it. No, it was replaced by the £30 price cap. Evidently the PL have decided to take it out of the individual clubs' hands how to spend the money. Mosr of them were discounting tickets or travel for fans anyway, so I wonder what led them to this change. Its especially interesting since Dutch is adamant that the Premier League were pleased about City not spending any on their own fans. Incidentally I don't really believe they spent it on the away end either. It was probably just another lazy Allam lie.
Probably the fact that most clubs were charging about £50 for an away ticket, and that the ASI fund was being used to subsidise about 50p. £30 cap is far better.
You could do to read the story about the boy that cried wolf. You've made a lot of allegations against the Allams on here, and retracted none even when it turned out you were wrong. Such as the ASI money spent on shirts, or spent contrary to the rules. I asked on another post for one example of the Allams breaking the rules, and not one was forthcoming. That isn't to say I support them, but the point I made previously was your posts just end up being read as incessant whines, which as an official on the trust, reflects badly on fans and the football club. If he hasn't broken the rules, and what he's doing is wrong, it needs taking up with the powers that be. If he has broken the rules, that too needs taking up with the powers that be, Just blaming them for everything irrespective of the reality just dilutes the real issues and sucks energy from real solutions.
I agree, John, that the PL is the place to be. Why not, the Championship is decent, but the PL is what we should aim for. But at what cost? In my mind supporters are fickle at best, hard core are hard core, but they don't keep everything going. Tomorrow's another day.
All the twattish things they've done are no less twattish just because they don't breach any official rules.
Probably because folk want to sound like they know what they're talking about. They don't though. It made so much sense for the Yanks to close the deal; the reason it didn't happen will not be that they were being difficult. Allam, synonymous with duplicitous, arrogant ****, is my best clue on this.
Who said they weren't? If being twattish was an issue in itself, I can think of a fair few others that meet that category. A fair amount of the twattish things they were accused of weren't correct, but some seem to think the solution is to post abuse on here, rather than actually look at ways to move the situation on. If they're not against the rules, then the campaign should be to change the rules. If they are against the rules, the campaign should be to have the rules enforced. I don't see much of either occurring.
I think, seeing as you do tend to use claims of folk having said something, that you really ought to start quoting something to support your claims. Not doubting you, Obi, but it will add credibility. Just a simple question, but what more do you need to persuade you that the Allams are both greedy and stupid? There is no 'how' as they just are. I stopped believing 'the club' a long time ago; I'll extract what I want from the various rumours on here.
You haven't seen any of the details of HCST work with the FSF and SD on drawing up new rules on protection of names, kits and badges and clubs use of names on social media? One of the things HCST will no doubt raise with Richard Scudamore tomorrow.
Agreed. They've tightened the rule avoiding any room for reptilious owners to squirm out of it. Can you post a list of things I've accused the Allams of that have turned out to be wrong? You regularly copy and paste this exact rant but it's based on absolutely **** all.
I can't say I have. Perhaps if they'd spread the message a bit further and asked, people may have been willing to offer a bit of help. It does seem to have dragged on a bit.
It's not a rant, it's just an observation that you whine a lot with seemingly no constructive outcome. It's not a cut and paste, and it's not something I post that often, and I listed two of them in the earlier reply, and I guess I could add the comment at the top of the reply I've quoted. Still, at least you're consistent, in posting an inaccurate whine.
The agreed price after Wembley. The agreed price last Tuesday to take into account the exchange range fluctuations. The amount to be paid upfront. When the other repayments were to be made and at what rate of interest. The security in place if the monies weren't paid. A summary of what was agreed on the Tuesday to make sure the purchaser wasn't stupid enough to exclude the SMC. None of which I'm ever likely to see but all of which would affect my judgement as to whether the Allams are greedy and/or stupid.
It's no good trying to reason with PLT. His loathing for all things Allam have completely blinkered his views as expressed on this forum. If he's like that in real life then he's probably beyond help!
You asked Ben for a list of rules they'd broken to support his claim that they had done so. Since then you've claimed that 'some in the prem' were pleased with the Allams' (non)use of the ASI fund and that I've regularly accuse the Allams of things which later turn out to be wrong, yet you're not prepared to provide a list for either of those. Despite what you've implied, I never claimed they spent the ASI money on some crap t shirts. Other people may have but I think that was a complete irrelevance. All that mattered was that they didn't spend it on anything worthwhile or that anyone asked for. We both know first hand that the club knew what we wanted and deliberately avoided that option. We also know who made that decision. What they actually did spend the fund on, if anything, is impossible to measure, since it's not documented anywhere and their record for telling the truth is beyond poor. Their vague claim that it was spent on the away end at The Circle was unconvincing. So not only did I not say it, but there's no way of knowing if those that did say it were right or wrong. Still, I expect you to post it again in a few more weeks. "I'm not defending them but..."
It's no good trying to reason with irememberwaggy. His obsequious love for all things Allam have completely blinkered his views as expressed on this forum. If he's like that in real life then he's probably beyond help!
What do you think my motivation to be anti Allam is? You seem to be under the impression that I hated them already and that has coloured my views on their decisions rather than vice versa. It's strange, but I'd love to know what you think made me hate them in the first place.
You can expect all you like, and you can (and no doubt will) try to imply what you want, I even put that no doubt I'd be accused of being an apologist, but as you can't even get things right when they're in the same thread you're posting on, it doesn't bode well for the rest of your reply being accurate. What you have done is missed the point. Instead of whining on here, you'd be better garnering support for a campaign to either get the rules changed, or upheld. It'd have to be more successful than your current tactic. Before you have another attempt at implying I'm an apologist, have a think about the implications of the approach I'm suggesting. In my view, it deals with the self and same issues that upset you, but it tackles the problem, and if done right should raise the reputation of the fans and the club, rather than generating negativity and division and making you guilty of the attitude you use to describe the Allams. Nobody tells you how to deal with a problem.
