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Bodinki said:
what kind of ****** joins a forum where he is racist as ****, uses their real name as their user name and uses a real picture of themselves as their avatar?
Bell end
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It was, perhaps still is, even worse than that mate - not going to go into too much detail as it wouldn't be right ...
 
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FosseFilberto said:
It's complicated - personally I hope he is put away for a very long time - but the defence is obviously going to say that this is a driving offence and that he did not get into his car with any 'intent' to wound or hurt anyone ...

Hopefully the 'multiple counts' will be enough to get a custodial sentence that reflects the seriousness of 'the crime' ...
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GBH with malicious intent can carry a tariff up to and including a life sentence. These are just the 'holding' charges though - what they needed to get rubber-stamped by the CPS because there is undeniably enough prima facie evidence. They have all the time in the world (or at least until November when the trial has been preliminarily set for) to work on the others.
 
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brb said:
Absolute ages ago mate, right back to when Pete got doxxed. Although doxxed is disputable because I think he always used his real name, probably more stalked over his online stuff, from employment to sexual preferences. Hence a line had to be drawn in the sand.
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He had all his details including his address and phone number on his website for his one-man Sensible Party. He himself mentioned the Sensible Party on here several times - and he was warned (By you? Can't remember) not to use his real name and access to personal details on this site. He ignored all that until Stan doxxed him. But in effect, he doxxed himself.
 
Thus Spake Zarathustra said:
GBH with malicious intent can carry a tariff up to and including a life sentence. These are just the 'holding' charges though - what they needed to get rubber-stamped by the CPS because there is undeniably enough prima facie evidence. They have all the time in the world (or at least until November when the trial has been preliminarily set for) to work on the others.
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Suppose it depends how the drugs came about being in his system, voluntary or involuntary, even so...

  • Intoxication and Mens Rea:
    In criminal law, "mens rea" refers to the mental state required for a crime, such as the intent to cause harm or recklessness. Voluntary intoxication can sometimes negate the mens rea required for specific intent crimes, but it generally doesn't negate the mens rea for crimes of basic intent.

    However,
    • Case Law:
      The case of R v Lipman 1 QB 152 illustrates this point, where a defendant who was under the influence of LSD was convicted of manslaughter after causing the death of a woman while in a delusional state, despite his claim of having no knowledge of what he was doing.

      • Intoxication and Recklessness:
        Even if an intoxicated person lacks a specific intent, they may still be found to have acted recklessly, which is sufficient to establish the mens rea for some crimes.
 
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Thus Spake Zarathustra said:
He had all his details including his address and phone number on his website for his one-man Sensible Party. He himself mentioned the Sensible Party on here several times - and he was warned (By you? Can't remember) not to use his real name and access to personal details on this site. He ignored all that until Stan doxxed him. But in effect, he doxxed himself.
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Everything you and Solid have told me, I already knew.

I know because it involved me deterring the police and local MP getting involved. I know sometimes people think it's a laugh, but it still holds consequences for this site.

So I had to deal with it, regardless of whether it was his fault the details were out there. It don't matter if someone is a prick or a decent chap, I still see it as my obligation to protect them the best I can, whether they deserved it or not.

I don't really give a **** he doxxed himself, it still don't make it right to plaster his details or telephone number on the site.

I will protect anyone the best I can, no matter whom they are, sometimes I have to let things ride, because it can do more harm than good by me getting involved, so often it's about timing more than the action.
 
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Bodinki said:
Given the publicity surrounding it, I would be surprised if he got less than 5, purely because the judge will be too scared.
But even if he gets 5, with no previous, he will serve less than 2, given how quickly first time offenders make parole nowadays.
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Do you mean the publicity of it, or the fact that 79 people were injured, including several people trapped under his car including a child when he swerved back into them? Yeah, if he only gets two years after that there may well be cries for "Justchhh". And not just from Scousers.
 
brb said:
Everything you and Solid have told me, I already knew.

I know because it involved me deterring the police and local MP getting involved. I know sometimes people think it's a laugh, but it still holds consequences for this site.

So I had to deal with it, regardless of whether it was his fault the details were out there. It don't matter if someone is a prick or a decent chap, I still see it as my obligation to protect them the best I can, whether they deserved it or not.

I don't really give a **** he doxxed himself, it still don't make it right to plaster his details or telephone number on the site.

I will protect anyone the best I can, no matter whom they are, sometimes I have to let things ride, because it can do more harm than good by me getting involved, so often it's about timing more than the action.
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I know - I didn't, Stan did. Tobes told us all not to repost any of those details. Most didn't. But he did dox himself.
 
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Thus Spake Zarathustra said:
Do you mean the publicity of it, or the fact that 79 people were injured, including several people trapped under his car including a child when he swerved back into them? Yeah, if he only gets two years after that there may well be cries for "Justchhh". And not just from Scousers.
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No I mean the publicity.
The crime will be the crime, regardless, but sentiment from the public nature of it may sway the judge to be harsher, especially given who the victims were,
 
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