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Libby said:
Didn't you just say the opposite?
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No - the safeguarding needs to be there, but it can be an either / or ... i.e. if the owners aren't rich enough to give a legally binding guarantee or monetary bond (derivative) then fine to have a 'PSR' calculation ... but most clubs currently in the top 2 divisions do have ownership capable of providing the former - as do Birmingham and Wrexham...
 
FosseFilberto said:
No - the safeguarding needs to be there but if can be a two tier thing - an either / or ... if the owners aren't rich enough to give a legally binding guarantee or monetary bond (derivative) then fine to have a 'PSR' calculation ... but most clubs currently in the top 2 divisions do have ownership capable of providing the former - as do Birmingham and Wrexham...
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Sucky in 3...2..
 
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Libby said:
Sucky in 3...2..
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Have edited to better explain ... the reality is that the most successful clubs in our football history have been built on legacies of (unrestricted) financial clout ... i.e. having the money to buy the best players - FFP and PSR primarily ensure that only a handful of our clubs are now able to do that...

It is quite absurd (not to mention anti-competitive) that the current richest club in our country (by ownership wealth) Newcastle United can be effectively barred from competing for the signatures of those players (to the advantage of clubs like Arsenal, Liverpool and United) ... because some accountant has come up with a formula and rules that favour (and give a distinct advantage to) the already 'big clubs' ...
 
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FosseFilberto said:
Have edited to better explain ... the reality is that the most successful clubs in our football history have been built on legacies of (unrestricted) financial clout ... i.e. having the money to buy the best players - FFP and PSR primarily ensure that only a handful of our clubs are now able to do that...

It is quite absurd (not to mention anti-competitive) that the current richest club in our country (by ownership wealth) Newcastle United can be effectively barred from competing for the signatures of those players (to the advantage of clubs like Arsenal, Liverpool and United) ... because some accountant has come up with a formula and rules that favour (and give a distinct advantage to) the already 'big clubs' ...
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I'll be honest mate I can't be arsed with it. It's been done to death and almost as dull as watching a Russell Martin team. I only really mentioned it tonight in reply to solid and luv and was making specific points rather than discussing the entire thing.

I'm just looking forward to next season which will be much more enjoyable.
 
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FosseFilberto said:
Have edited to better explain ... the reality is that the most successful clubs in our football history have been built on legacies of (unrestricted) financial clout ... i.e. having the money to buy the best players - FFP and PSR primarily ensure that only a handful of our clubs are now able to do that...

It is quite absurd (not to mention anti-competitive) that the current richest club in our country (by ownership wealth) Newcastle United can be effectively barred from competing for the signatures of those players (to the advantage of clubs like Arsenal, Liverpool and United) ... because some accountant has come up with a formula and rules that favour (and give a distinct advantage to) the already 'big clubs' ...
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We'll get there... Too many cards in world economics.

Actually the apt2 case could be huge for football and that decision can't be too far away.
 
FosseFilberto said:
Certainly isn't if they're not allowed to spend it ... Chelsea would likely have remained in the yo-yo boys club with the likes of us, Sunderland, West Brom etc without Abramovic's money ... Citeh likewise -

Would it have been better for our game if they hadn't obtained the abilty to compete? (I.e owners with bottomless pockets) and United and Arsenal continued to be the only clubs with a realistic chance of the Prem each season?

Not for me - that would have been boring as ****.

The whole PSR / FFP thing needs re-thinking - 'parental guarantees' from mega rich owners to ensure that all 'creditors' get paid should they ever decide to exit ... then let the ****ers spend what they want so we give as many teams as possible the 'potential' to win the major trophies each season ...
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we spent 10m this season <whistle>
 
Even as a Saints fan I'm impressed by the levels of **** for Leicester going 9 games at home without scoring. Fosse loves the number 9 too <whistle>

Guess who they've got next at home though...
 
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Horny 4 Hamas said:
Burnley will beat Sheff U anyway. Stoke have hit a bit of form but they’re safe now and are the sort of team to roll over and be on the beach now it’s all over.
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We've a good record against Stoke but a crap one against Mark Robins, plus we've lost 7 of our last Easter Monday games. But yeah, Burnley should beat Sheff utd

A win for us and a draw in the other game would be nice
 
Libby said:
Even as a Saints fan I'm impressed by the levels of **** for Leicester going 9 games at home without scoring. Fosse loves the number 9 too <whistle>

Guess who they've got next at home though...
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4 months sounds better than 9 games imo
 
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