Guess part of the reason I'm asking is because of the great Leeds side under Don Revie. Yes we won 2 titles, an FA Cup, a League Cup and 2 Inter City Fairs Cups but we also fell just short in so many seasons that the actual level of greatness is open to debate. The very best sides get he job done now matter what the circumstances, although trying to defeat bent referees was perhaps asking a bit too much.For the standard set we should have won more and a dispassionate view would be that under him we have been a nearly (great) team . In the last 4 years City have won 1 more point than us in the league but 3 titles to 1 . We have also been in 4 European finals but have only the 1 trophy .
However Klopp has transformed the club and we are again a major force both here an Europe and done within the clubs earned revenue and all us Reds are truly thankful that he became our manager and still is .
Liverpool under Klopp desperately need to win another title or history will mark them down for failing to do so.

