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The elephant in the room is, can you imagine that Spurs side in the Champions League next season?

Don't get me wrong, I'd say the same about United but, **** me, they didn't have a single shot on target, and only two off.

They didn't try to score, yet we still contrived to lose to them.

Absolute ****ing garbage, and when the euphoria ends, that will dawn on people.

United and Spurs aren't up to CL football,winning the cup was the main thing, for both sides.

Well done Spurs in defending for their lives, it was our job to score and we failed in that spectacularly, yet again.
 
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I'm gonna have some fun winding up Arsenal fans on Sunday anyway. Prob pre game tbf given we'll get hammered.
 
As someone who grew up in the 90s and early 2000s I can't help but smirk and be a bit bitter.

However, the fact an American has severely damaged an English institution doesn't sit right with me.

I'm happy for them to be average for the foreseable but I wouldn't want them bankrupted.

They are in trouble for sure.

Like us in 2010 under Hicks and Gillette, they can't be 'bankrupted' in the normal sense. They're one of the top three EPL brands in the world, along with us and Arsenal (that's what effectively saved us). They will have lost a huge amount of value, and they will have to operate under enormous financial restrictions and probably have to have a firesale, but if, for some reason, the Glazers and Ratcliffe couldn't service their debts the banks would be legally entitled to sell the club from under them, even if it meant that Ratcliffe and the Glazers were left holding the rest of the debts that couldn't be covered by the value of the club - that's what happened to us.

The difference, that will affect what value United will be sold for, will be that no matter what value the club is sold for, unlike Liverpool, United will not start again with a clean sheet - the PSR restrictions will follow across to a new ownership. They didn't have FFP in 2010.

That said, when the government forced the sale of Chelsea from Abramovich, the £1.2bn they owed him seems to have disappeared. Some argue that the majority of the debt was accrued before FFP. Still, there is actually a template now that you can run up horrendous debt, your current owners absorb it and call it a loan (and it adds value to your squad) then your current management sells the club (even to another consortium of the same people under a different name), and that debt/loan is effectively wiped off. That is in essence what happened to Chelsea, as I have had it explained to me on these forums, but I hope to be corrected.

Anyway, they can't really be bankrupted, but them being in a zombie state for the next five years at least will fill my boots. <cheers>
 
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The elephant in the room is, can you imagine that Spurs side in the Champions League next season?

Don't get me wrong, I'd say the same about United but, **** me, they didn't have a single shot on target, and only two off.

They didn't try to score, yet we still contrived to lose to them.

Absolute ****ing garbage, and when the euphoria ends, that will dawn on people.

United and Spurs aren't up to CL football,winning the cup was the main thing, for both sides.

Well done Spurs in defending for their lives, it was our job to score and we failed in that spectacularly, yet again.

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The elephant in the room is, can you imagine that Spurs side in the Champions League next season?

Don't get me wrong, I'd say the same about United but, **** me, they didn't have a single shot on target, and only two off.

They didn't try to score, yet we still contrived to lose to them.

Absolute ****ing garbage, and when the euphoria ends, that will dawn on people.

United and Spurs aren't up to CL football,winning the cup was the main thing, for both sides.

Well done Spurs in defending for their lives, it was our job to score and we failed in that spectacularly, yet again.

He got the same team to 5th last season. They massively messed up in the summer by spending a fortune on kids, if Ange gets the right players this summer they'll be fine.

Man U under Amorim is the more interesting case if he gets to buy "his team", as the jury's still out on him in the Prem to say the least.
 
He got the same team to 5th last season. They massively messed up in the summer by spending a fortune on kids, if Ange gets the right players this summer they'll be fine.

Untrue.

1. Ange-ball had already been worked out last season
by the bottom 2/3 of the PL, just as the business end
of the season arrived,

2. He did not get his squad rotation going this season
anywhere near acceptable during the EL group stage
nor before the xmas period, before injuries could even
become an issue.

So his "system" + squad mgmt are the problems, not lack of "right" players.
 
Could United go down next season?

No as there are three teams coming up from the second division and only three teams can go down.

Hard to say what a par season is for them next year tbh. Obviously mid-table is a big step up from this utter drek but that’s never going to be acceptable. Conference League? They seem more off it than ever.