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Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by Libby, Aug 4, 2017.

  1. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    When it was an amateur game the northern teams and arsenal were cheating paying pros.
    Kick em all out I say.
     
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  2. FosseFilberto

    FosseFilberto Pizzeria Superiore and some ... Forum Moderator

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    If you know your history ... it's always happened ...

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_of_England_club

    ... no surprise that the clubs mentioned in the article were all incredibly successful at the height of their ability to spend compared with their rivals ...

    Unfortunately that's the way of the world ... only ones really complaining are fans of those clubs used to having the success that comes with that spending ability but now finding they are poorer cousins relatively ...
     
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  3. Sucky

    Sucky peoples champ & forum saviour

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    Just say you can't explain mate it's okay
     
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  4. Sucky

    Sucky peoples champ & forum saviour

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    So what previous English side has had 115 charges of cheating hanging over them before again? You know cos it happens all the time yeh
     
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  5. Star of David Bardsley

    Star of David Bardsley 2023 Funniest Poster

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    Wales slight favourites. Still quite fancy them at home.

    Also Iceland at a big price on a neutral ground against Ukraine (presumably still a decent number of Ukrainians going but still). Israel are **** but Iceland looked comfortable.
     
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  6. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    ok
    Everton, simple fraud, cheap and easy to prove.
    Man City, extremely complicated reverse money laundering, extremely expensive to audit and almost impossible to prove.
    Understand now you simian brained fool?
     
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  7. Sucky

    Sucky peoples champ & forum saviour

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    Could you elaborate a little
     
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  8. FosseFilberto

    FosseFilberto Pizzeria Superiore and some ... Forum Moderator

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    You can only 'cheat' when somebody makes up some rules ... in the days when there were no financial constraints guess which clubs dominated? ... surprise surprise the richest ones ... nowt has changed in that regards ... just the authorities putting in measures to protect the interests of some of those previously able to spend the most ...
     
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  9. Chief

    Chief Northern Simpleton Forum Moderator

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    Except they didn't make it difficult for City, which was my point and the one you seem to want to ignore. They have more or less facilitated the process by doing **** all about their own rules.

    You are claiming FFP is a ruse to protect the old guard, City are not the old guard so that hasn't worked.

    It's supposed to provide a sustainable level playing field for all concerned spending wise, also hasn't worked.

    I haven't got a dog in the fight. Neither for IT or against it, it just does not work on any level.

    As it goes, I genuinely support one team in a financial pickle due to an American leveraged purchase, and am a season ticket holder at another club in the same situation but on a smaller scale.

    Both Manchester United and Swansea City have been raped by American owners.

    FFP doesn't work against that, either.
     
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  10. FosseFilberto

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    I'm not disputing that Citeh are seemingly able to float above any FFP ramifications... as have PSG and Chelsea in my mind.... there is a common denominator amongst them ... incredible wealth... and given the now known antics of Blatter, Platini and Co over the years I can't say I'm particularly surprised that such clubs continue to evade serious accountability ...

    ... but coming at it tangentially... apart from those nouveau super rich clubs, who does FFP actually benefit ... certainly not those aspiring to join the top table ...
     
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  11. FosseFilberto

    FosseFilberto Pizzeria Superiore and some ... Forum Moderator

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    I had no idea that Sucky's real name was Brian ... or that he was from Simia... is it one of the Baltic states?
     
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  12. Treble

    Treble Keyser Söze

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    Chief makes a perfectly valid point that if the rules were solely to keep lesser clubs down then City wouldn't have been allowed to achieve what they have.

    This then descends into a page of the usual "City cheated" / "no they didn't" which really has fck all to do with the point made.
     
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  13. Peej

    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    Sure that Newcastle haven’t broken any rules/guidance….
     
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  14. Peej

    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    a club facing an EFP and PL investigation would tend to look at it that way.
     
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  15. Citizen Kane.

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    Not sure if you saw/heard what Ian Wright said the other day about City but it made me really angry.

    He was the only Gooner I had time of day for, but his comments belied a dangerous naivety and a really poor attitude.

    Even worse were all the other pundits sitting there nodding in agreement.
     
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  16. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Isn't it because the rules were brought in after (and as a direct response to) City?

    City already had a few years of CL money and had won a league title by the time the rules came in so got in just before the door was shut.

    A club couldn't do what City did in the 5/6 years between being bought and the rules coming in these days. The rules were made exactly to prevent another City happening as the historically big clubs didn't like it.

    Pretty sure David Gill was one of the big drivers of the original UEFA rules wasn't he?
     
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  17. FosseFilberto

    FosseFilberto Pizzeria Superiore and some ... Forum Moderator

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    There are always exceptions ... especially incredibly wealthy ones ...
     
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  18. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    City had a 5-6 year period of free spending without restriction so it's not really a fair comparison. How are Toon and Villa doing in comparison to those first few years under the Sheikh.

    If the rules had come in in 2008 City wouldn't be where they are now.
     
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  19. FosseFilberto

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    On the money Libster ... panic set in amongst some of the elite at the thought of more Citeh's quaffing at their exclusive club golden trough...
     
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  20. FosseFilberto

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    We're home free soft lad ... counter sueing both the PL and EPL with the top lawyer honcho for breaches of their own due processes and protocols . . not been caught with our hands in the till diddling receipts and expenses like your grubby little making up the numbers club ... wouldn't be surprised if you end up in the National League <laugh>
     
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