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I agree with wage caps, transfer embargos all that kind of stuff, if a club is being mismanaged. I just dont agree with fines and points deductions, it does the exact opposite of helping clubs sort themselves out.
More clubs have gone into administration since they introduced these rules than they did before. So who is it helping?
 
This is ruining football, this whole "Making sure clubs spend however much we tell them they can spend" bullshit.
Its about time the authorities realised football is now a business, and telling investors or owners they cannot invest into their businesses is backward as ****.
This "unfairness" in terms of some clubs having more money than other has always been there, it was there in the 60's, 70's and 80's, and was made all the more prominent with the advent of the Premier League.
Either prices, wages, prize moneys and TV revenue gets capped and its made even across the board or they just need to stop trying to control clubs finances and let them do what the **** they want.
We are seeing points deductions and sanctions all over the place. Reading got raped because of sanctions "Oh they dont have enough money to pay people, well instead of forcing their owner out and helping them, we'll fine them and deduct points so they get relegated, that'll help ease their money problems".
Absolute ******ed on all levels.
Everton now getting messed around. And yet when it comes to PSG, Real and City, they wont do **** all.
Clubs keep finding legal loop holes to spend more money, like Chelsea did with the contract length thing, and then the authorities come up with new ways to close the loop holes....its tiring. I just want to enjoy football.
I disagree, there has to be some kind of rule in place but that rule has to be fair. That's the difficult bit. You can't have clubs spending money they haven't got or just let the big clubs get investment from dodgy sources and just do what they want. I can see why you don't like the rule though but on the other hand you could go bust quite quickly with your current owner which would be nice. Milton Keynes could do with a derby.
 
I disagree, there has to be some kind of rule in place but that rule has to be fair. That's the difficult bit. You can't have clubs spending money they haven't got or just let the big clubs get investment from dodgy sources and just do what they want.
If the "dodgy source" is the owner, and they are dodgy, how are they allowed to be an owner in the first place?
Thats whats ****ed up
 
And also, what constitutes dodgy?
Almost every person or consortium with another money to own a PL club has engaged in business dealings that one would consider "dodgy".
Generally speaking, you dont acquire that amount of money by doing things on the up and up.
The main issue is, is there a danger of going out of business? For Clearlake, Qatari and Sheikh Mansour? LOL, nah.
And again, I am not against sanctions against clubs, like wage caps, transfer embargos etc and lay offs to get their business in order.
Its mainly hefty fines and point deductions I disagree with, because it really does not help to deduct points from a club, for contravening stupid rules that shouldnt exist in the first place. When its a club thats in zero danger of going under anyway, its stupid, but when its a club that is hanging on for dear life and on the verge of administration, its downright cruel and sadistic.
 
And also, what constitutes dodgy?
Almost every person or consortium with another money to own a PL club has engaged in business dealings that one would consider "dodgy".
Generally speaking, you dont acquire that amount of money by doing things on the up and up.
The main issue is, is there a danger of going out of business? For Clearlake, Qatari and Sheikh Mansour? LOL, nah.
And again, I am not against sanctions against clubs, like wage caps, transfer embargos etc and lay offs to get their business in order.
Its mainly hefty fines and point deductions I disagree with, because it really does not help to deduct points from a club, for contravening stupid rules that shouldnt exist in the first place. When its a club thats in zero danger of going under anyway, its stupid, but when its a club that is hanging on for dear life and on the verge of administration, its downright cruel and sadistic.
Anyone called Boehly.
 
<laugh> whatever they do to us, Villa will be getting it twofold ... and they'll likely not be the only ones ... be ironic if Villa look like getting a CL spot until getting hit with a points deduction ..

Nice deflection Fosse, I'm amazed that you pulled it off for two pages without it being challenged. <laugh>

How those debt shares going?
 
Anyone called Boehly.
Yes Boehly is a billionaire, hence he has likely taken part in dealings that you and I would consider dodgy...thats my point.
But under that vague criteria, no one would be able to own a football club
 
Utd bout to enter the Hodgson stage<laugh>
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Nice deflection Fosse, I'm amazed that you pulled it off for two pages without it being challenged. <laugh>

How those debt shares going?

All true mate - Villa made huge losses in their latest published financial statements - substantially more than we did / will.

As to the debt shares - the recapitalisation eradicated the debt - the risk is all the shareholders (KingPower) instead of us owing them for a loan (which is repayable) they now have share capital - which is not - but would entitle them to dividends (were we to pay any) ...simples <cheers>
 
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As to the debt shares - the recapitalisation eradicated the debt - the risk is all the shareholders (KingPower) instead of us owing them for a loan (which is repayable) they now have share capital - which is not - but would entitle them to dividends (where we to pay any) ...simples cheers

The fact that fans know this sort of **** about their clubs is scary.
And just a tad gay.
 
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