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Spurf said:
The board has shown its incompetence and that is my point. The owners will see the financial costs (to them) of this failure by the board. They presumably thought Levy was the problem and pushed him out. Ironically they have clearly missed his financial nouse and they will miss it even more when the financial costs become clear. As with their continual search for managers (hopefully we have a good one now) they will need to find savvy directors. Also somebody has to look at our scouting system which appears to be extremely poor. Compare Spurs to Brighton, Brentford, Palace, Bournemouth. All teams with a lot less resources than Spurs but all doing far far better at finding and recruiting top footballers. Our solution of looking at 60million players and thinking they are the answer is pathetic compared to the clubs I mention who find better players than our 60 million shots for 15 million or 12 million over and over again.
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It is a truly astonishing position to be in for a "club of our size".

Many have pointed out on this board that the recruitment has been nothing short of abysmal over the years and you just hope lessons have been learned, but I doubt they have.

You feel that even at this stage the owners are in full denial, just sitting there still not believing it's going to happen. Which it will.
 
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Spurf said:
You don't need me to list all the players from these clubs that end up at City, Liverpool, United and so on. It's a continuous stream. Why do we not have these connections?
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Because - as someone else said, forgot who, apologies - we don’t have football people at the club. We have accountants and finance “experts” who ironically are almost the exact opposite of being as such because they fork out on too many duds as they have no clue about the game itself.

How people can look at Richarlison, Solanke, Gallagher and see figures like £60m, £65m, £35m etc is both staggering and worrying.
 
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Dier Hard said:
Because - as someone else said, forgot who, apologies - we don’t have football people at the club. We have accountants and finance “experts” who ironically are almost the exact opposite of being as such because they fork out on too many duds as they have no clue about the game itself.

How people can look at Richarlison, Solanke, Gallagher and see figures like £60m, £65m, £35m etc is both staggering and worrying.
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I agree but who is advising them?
 
BinghamSpur said:
It is a truly astonishing position to be in for a "club of our size".

Many have pointed out on this board that the recruitment has been nothing short of abysmal over the years and you just hope lessons have been learned, but I doubt they have.

You feel that even at this stage the owners are in full denial, just sitting there still not believing it's going to happen. Which it will.
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After the match yesterday the camera panned to the directors area and Vinai and Viv were stood there looking mortified and bamboozled at what they just witnessed. I think they know exactly that they ****ed up the club, they took a gamble in the transfer window that we would make it through to summer without relegation and that decision has completely back fired in their faces. I'm sure they thought Spurs were too big a team to go down. By the looks on their faces yesterday they know if we get relegated that it is on them and them alone. No amount if money can save them now and they should be ashamed of their inaction.
 
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Huddlejonny said:
After the match yesterday the camera panned to the directors area and Vinai and Viv were stood there looking mortified and bamboozled at what they just witnessed. I think they know exactly that they ****ed up the club, they took a gamble in the transfer window that we would make it through to summer without relegation and that decision has completely back fired in their faces. I'm sure they thought Spurs were too big a team to go down. By the looks on their faces yesterday they know if we get relegated that it is on them and them alone. No amount if money can save them now and they should be ashamed of their inaction.
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Also, it’s probable that ENIC didn’t want to spend on potential transfers for a new manager for the January window,so they tried to be clever and waited until after the window shut to change managers.
 
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OssiesGoingToWembley said:
Also, it’s probable that ENIC didn’t want to spend on potential transfers for a new manager for the January window,so they tried to be clever and waited until after the window shut to change managers.
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Definitely not that, as the briefing about bringing Poch back post-WC was already starting in November

The mistake was believing that Frank could carry the can until the end of the season when it was abundantly clear things weren't working and whatever authority he had was undermined by their briefing, which somehow never occurred to them
 
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humanbeingincroydon said:
Definitely not that, as the briefing about bringing Poch back post-WC was already starting in November

The mistake was believing that Frank could carry the can until the end of the season when it was abundantly clear things weren't working and whatever authority he had was undermined by their briefing, which somehow never occurred to them
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And the second mistake was appointing someone with zero PL experience to carry the can after Frank.

Whatever the Latin is for "Tried to be Clever" should be under the club crest instead of the open lie currently occupying that spot.
 
humanbeingincroydon said:
Definitely not that, as the briefing about bringing Poch back post-WC was already starting in November

The mistake was believing that Frank could carry the can until the end of the season when it was abundantly clear things weren't working and whatever authority he had was undermined by their briefing, which somehow never occurred to them
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Would things be any worse if Spurs had kept Frank?

He still remains the last manager to win a league game which is embarrassing
 
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Citizen Kane. said:
And the second mistake was appointing someone with zero PL experience to carry the can after Frank.

Whatever the Latin is for "Tried to be Clever" should be under the club crest instead of the open lie currently occupying that spot.
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All this talk of PL experience is a crock, considering our last two trophies came from managers with zero PL experience

The issue is the players were clearly tuning out Frank by December, and probably earlier considering Romero was clearly ignoring instructions and decided to play CF in that Newcastle match, and that was when plans needed drawing up for a mid-season change

Obviously there were issues with Tudor, chief among them his being another example of Paratici's 3ATB fetish plus his playing Palhinha as a CB in his system did lead to our midfield getting overrun in games, though I don't think it's unreasonable to say Tudor had a better idea of the job in hand based on how he wanted to restore some pride in the badge and did identify that Frank was prioritising stamina over fitness
 
KingHotspur said:
Would things be any worse if Spurs had kept Frank?

He still remains the last manager to win a league game which is embarrassing
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Honestly, yes

He just didn't understand the assignment so when things didn't go to plan either due to his tactics being sussed or half his starting xi being injured he was a rabbit in the headlights and had no plan to fix it, which is why the players started to tune him out

If we had somebody else in charge it's highly likely we would have got more than just three points we got combined from the Brentford, Sunderland, Burnley and West Scam games in January
 
KingHotspur said:
Would things be any worse if Spurs had kept Frank?

He still remains the last manager to win a league game which is embarrassing
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My abiding memory of Frank is the game away to City last summer when Spurs produced a brilliant tactical performance to win and were top of the PL. I’m not sure why or how the wheels came off subsequently, but having also won there with Brentford, he showed an amount of acumen which boded well, but for some reason he couldn’t repeat it.
Injuries didn’t help and there must be doubts about the players’ attitude and mentality generally, but I think Spurs would be better off under Frank if outside noise hadn’t made it impossible for him to carry on.
 
littleDinosaurLuke said:
My abiding memory of Frank is the game away to City last summer when Spurs produced a brilliant tactical performance to win and were top of the PL. I’m not sure why or how the wheels came off subsequently, but having also won there with Brentford, he showed an amount of acumen which boded well, but for some reason he couldn’t repeat it.
Injuries didn’t help and there must be doubts about the players’ attitude and mentality generally, but I think Spurs would be better off under Frank if outside noise hadn’t made it impossible for him to carry on.
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The Bournemouth match was the problem: Iraola knew exactly how to beat the team, not in terms of which gaps to exploit or which players to target but how to bait our pressing triggers and sidestep them entirely, and he made the team look ordinary - which set the blueprint for basically every other team to copy, and plenty of them did

While there were certainly other issues, not least the very public call for a manager to play more attractive football is clearly code for how a manager's system is less important than incorporating certain players we paid a lot for into the team (hint hint) as this is at least the third case of this happening in the past fifteen years/second case in the last five, Frank prioritising workrate over technique was always going to blow up in his face at some point
 
littleDinosaurLuke said:
My abiding memory of Frank is the game away to City last summer when Spurs produced a brilliant tactical performance to win and were top of the PL. I’m not sure why or how the wheels came off subsequently, but having also won there with Brentford, he showed an amount of acumen which boded well, but for some reason he couldn’t repeat it.
Injuries didn’t help and there must be doubts about the players’ attitude and mentality generally, but I think Spurs would be better off under Frank if outside noise hadn’t made it impossible for him to carry on.
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Dier Hard said:
Because - as someone else said, forgot who, apologies - we don’t have football people at the club. We have accountants and finance “experts” who ironically are almost the exact opposite of being as such because they fork out on too many duds as they have no clue about the game itself.

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