Off Topic General election

[rooch 3]

One could say that there is a reason most of the media is right wing though? Everybody is wrong then apart from the daily mirror?

I can't understand how people still blame the right wing media when results don't go there way who owned these news papers when Labour were in government all those years people can think for themselves mate and they know when a government is s hit or not.

 

[Disco down under]

The far right are going to be more popular than they have been in years.

 

[ImissedShack]

I am not a Labour voter but I thought Corbyn did really well if I was RAW I would be doing a jig right now.

We need to remember that Corbyn called a proscribed terrorist organisation, Hamas, his friends. He stood on platforms with the IRA on approximately 70 occasions and his shadow Home Secretary described a defeat for British forces a victory, presumably for all terrorists who oppose British values. Last but not least he attended a rally where Adnan Choudry was warmly praised and not forgetting his avowed opposition to our nuclear deterrent.

 

[rooch 3]

We need to remember that Corbyn called a proscribed terrorist organisation, Hamas, his friends. He stood on platforms with the IRA on approximately 70 occasions and his shadow Home Secretary described a defeat for British forces a victory, presumably for all terrorists who oppose British values. Last but not least he attended a rally where Adnan Choudry was warmly praised and not forgetting his avowed opposition to our nuclear deterrent.

Oh! he didn't mention any of that on the program

 

[J๏E..]

We need to remember that Corbyn called a proscribed terrorist organisation, Hamas, his friends. He stood on platforms with the IRA on approximately 70 occasions and his shadow Home Secretary described a defeat for British forces a victory, presumably for all terrorists who oppose British values. Last but not least he attended a rally where Adnan Choudry was warmly praised and not forgetting his avowed opposition to our nuclear deterrent.

Oh! he didn't mention any of that on the program

Selective memories lads, I am no Corbyn fan at all but maybe put the papers down and get the facts right ok?

If I go to an away game, say West Ham or better Celtic, I ain't going to go in there cursing every **** am I? What Corbyn was trying to achieve was peace talks, so to use the word friends seemed sensible to me don't you think? I have friends in the Philippines, they have some serious **** with the rebel groups at the moments, when Duterte the President meets them, he greets them as friends ok. He personally hates the ****ers but for talks, friend is the way to go..

We all have different political views and always will do, my gripe with the Blues is the leader, she is a full faced lying, paranoid twat with a liking for Nancy Reagan shoes. A look at me career sap that was adamant to get to the top, however she did it..

Her record is failure but anyone that can not look someone in the eyes and speak is a failure in my book. She has spouted out the same script now for 5 weeks, will get her arse back from the EU leaders, has no policy, just the policy from a couple of scruffy looking hippies who are her advisers ffs and her u-turns will smack her back in the face next Thursday..

Just my opinion mind..

 

[rooch 3]

Selective memories lads, I am no Corbyn fan at all but maybe put the papers down and get the facts right ok?

If I go to an away game, say West Ham or better Celtic, I ain't going to go in there cursing every **** am I? What Corbyn was trying to achieve was peace talks, so to use the word friends seemed sensible to me don't you think? I have friends in the Philippines, they have some serious **** with the rebel groups at the moments, when Duterte the President meets them, he greets them as friends ok. He personally hates the ****ers but for talks, friend is the way to go..

We all have different political views and always will do, my gripe with the Blues is the leader, she is a full faced lying, paranoid twat with a liking for Nancy Reagan shoes. A look at me career sap that was adamant to get to the top, however she did it..

Her record is failure but anyone that can not look someone in the eyes and speak is a failure in my book. She has spouted out the same script now for 5 weeks, will get her arse back from the EU leaders, has no policy, just the policy from a couple of scruffy looking hippies who are her advisers ffs and her u-turns will smack her back in the face next Thursday..

Just my opinion mind..

Don't see what this has to do with my comment I was taking the piss out of imissedshack as i thought Corbyn did well and he reckons he never mentioned any of above well he would of gone down real well if he had.

 

[J๏E..]

Don't see what this has to do with my comment I was taking the piss out of imissedshack as i thought Corbyn did well and he reckons he never mentioned any of above well he would of gone down real well if he had.

See, I'm doing it too, selective memory..

Sorry mate..

 

[Brian Storm]

We need to remember that Corbyn called a proscribed terrorist organisation, Hamas, his friends. He stood on platforms with the IRA on approximately 70 occasions and his shadow Home Secretary described a defeat for British forces a victory, presumably for all terrorists who oppose British values. Last but not least he attended a rally where Adnan Choudry was warmly praised and not forgetting his avowed opposition to our nuclear deterrent.

Pretty sure calling them friends is a technical term when signing a peace treaty, not because they're going down the pub together and are god fathers to each others kids. Peace treaties are declarations of 'friendship'. Why? Because both parties are agreeing to a cease fire/disarmament which means both sides become neutral to each other(hense when you fire on a neutral it's classed as friendly fire, because you're at peace with said neutral.)

It's just a word of established lingo. I can't believe people have actually taken this so seriously(bigger issues). It's just technically correct and has nothing to do with personal feelings, he probably thought Martin Mcguinness was prick. Mcguinness probably thought he was a prick too.

Friendship is a synonym of Peace.

I can't knock a man who takes a great deal of pleasure in bringing a stop to fighting personally. So soldiers don't have to continue to die for other peoples political ends, so that more of them get to come home to their mothers, wives and children.

 

[J๏E..]

Pretty sure calling them friends is a technical term when signing a peace treaty, not because they're going down the pub together and are god fathers to each others kids. Peace treaties are declarations of 'friendship'. Why? Because both parties are agreeing to a cease fire/disarmament which means both sides become neutral to each other(hense when you fire on a neutral it's classed as friendly fire, because you're at peace with said neutral.)

It's just a word of established lingo. I can't believe people have actually taken this so seriously(bigger issues). It's just technically correct and has nothing to do with personal feelings, he probably thought Martin Mcguinness was prick. Mcguinness probably thought he was a prick too.

Friendship is a synonym of Peace.

I can't knock a man who takes a great deal of pleasure in bringing a stop to fighting personally. So soldiers don't have to continue to die for other peoples political ends, so that more of them get to come home to their mothers, wives and children.

The conservative limp wrists will grandeur anything to hold their power..

The thing is for me, not one of them or their advisers suggested internet campaigning..

Big shock I think next Thursday..

 

[rooch 3]

The conservative limp wrists will grandeur anything to hold their power..

The thing is for me, not one of them or their advisers suggested internet campaigning..

Big shock I think next Thursday..

You could be right mate and I never thought I would ever say that.

 

[Brian Storm]

The conservative limp wrists will grandeur anything to hold their power..

The thing is for me, not one of them or their advisers suggested internet campaigning..

Big shock I think next Thursday..

Will certainly be interesting. Knowing Corbyn would never in a million years get away with scrapping Trident means my vote is with Labour. If he had is own parties backing to scrap it they would have lost my vote. But Trident is going nowhere, the act would never pass.

 

[J๏E..]

Will certainly be interesting. Knowing Corbyn would never in a million years get away with scrapping Trident means my vote is with Labour. If he had is own parties backing to scrap it they would have lost my vote. But Trident is going nowhere, the act would never pass.

Never will, just hope they sort the software out so the bloody thing hits target. Only 1 sub out there at the moment, 1 in for repairs, the other 2 for training..I just hope some ****er told Theresa May when she's pulling the leathers up tomorrow..

 

[Brian Storm]

Never will, just hope they sort the software out so the bloody thing hits target. Only 1 sub out there at the moment, 1 in for repairs, the other 2 for training..I just hope some ****er told Theresa May when she's pulling the leathers up tomorrow..

Indeed good sir.

 

[malagamackem]

SOME FUNDAMENTALS FOR US ALL :
1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!

Thats why I can't vote for Corbyn and why it will be Conservatives. The man is a loony tune

 

[Deleted #]

SOME FUNDAMENTALS FOR US ALL :
1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!

Thats why I can't vote for Corbyn and why it will be Conservatives. The man is a loony tune

You have just killed the Labour dream

Fully agree, they can't be trusted with finances.

 

[Brian Storm]

SOME FUNDAMENTALS FOR US ALL :
1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!

Thats why I can't vote for Corbyn and why it will be Conservatives. The man is a loony tune

1. It's not to make the poor prosper, it to pay for public services. Services everybody uses.
2. So people are working for nothing? Pray tell? Other than the people forced into tory legislated beneith the living wage internships, everybody is getting paid when they work.
3. Yes, it's called tax, been around for centuries, it's utterly essential, one could say it the engine which runs the country.
4. why should the focus be on multplying rich peoples bank balance when public services are suffering?

Are you really basing your vote around that?

 

[Woody]

Wrong mate.. They are awarding expensive contracts to party donors and are failing due to people leaving due to staff wage freezes. These staff are being replaced with agency staff that costs double the amount of money.. It is utter madness how this great institution is being deliberately ****ed up by this government. You can also add to this their reductions in social services which is also being passed on to the NHS to deal with.

Which party decided to pay consultants double their salary for half the hours worked.... labour. How many of these consultants then took on more and more private work using nhs facilities... most of them. The problem is nhs management is crap and self serving, and the consultants have too much to lose to support efficiency savings. The nhs is safe under the tories but they want to try to improve an inflexible and self serving structure .... corbyn would just throw more money at it ... thats the easy sell solution but the least likely to make the necessary chages.

 

[MrRAWhite]

Which party decided to pay consultants double their salary for half the hours worked.... labour. How many of these consultants then took on more and more private work using nhs facilities... most of them. The problem is nhs management is crap and self serving, and the consultants have too much to lose to support efficiency savings. The nhs is safe under the tories but they want to try to improve an inflexible and self serving structure .... corbyn would just throw more money at it ... thats the easy sell solution but the least likely to make the necessary chages.

The NHS is falling apart under the Tories. Ask people who work there mate..

 

[rooch 3]

The NHS is falling apart under the Tories. Ask people who work there mate..

Don't really want to get involved in this RAW but when I chopped my finger end off 5 ( honestly ) 5 different nurses treated me and they all asked my name and date of birth each time they came in our lass could of patched me up in 15 minutes didn't even get home before the bandages fell off so went back and they just gave them to our lass to do the dressings. Efficiency is not top of there priorities i am afraid to say.

 

[Brian Storm]

Which party decided to pay consultants double their salary for half the hours worked.... labour. How many of these consultants then took on more and more private work using nhs facilities... most of them. The problem is nhs management is crap and self serving, and the consultants have too much to lose to support efficiency savings. The nhs is safe under the tories but they want to try to improve an inflexible and self serving structure .... corbyn would just throw more money at it ... thats the easy sell solution but the least likely to make the necessary chages.

What's self serving about training more doctors, surgeons and nurses to cope with the undeniable strain? What's self serving about putting more ambulances on the road so old people don't risk hypothermia waiting hours after a fall? What's self serving about raising standards and staffing levels to reduce never events which are presently at a record high?

What you call self serving I call an attempt to make a service fit for purpose. Because it's not fit for purpose, it's failing on every level and the Tories won't fix it because their own spending projections fall short of what their own NHS are telling them they need. Labour will improve the NHS, and they'll get the bulk of money from the companies who are sending our stirling overseas and out of our economy. How dare Labour. Big bad Labour.