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I have a friend who lives in France and her 22 year old grandson who lives in Sussex suffers from Cerebral palsy. He needs assistance to get out of bed, go to the bathroom, and prepare a meal. Although physically he needs help, mentally he is very bright and a whizz kid with computers. The DWP offered him a job last year working to check records of those claiming benefits who had in fact died, yet relatives were still receiving the money. In his first month he found over 200 cases, and saved the taxpayer thousands of pounds, so he was offered an 18 month contract. From April this year he lost his carers allowance, so can no longer go to work as he needed help to get him there.
Just one actual case out of thousands. If SH liked to put forward a case for this being a good thing, how it should be corrected if he doesn't think it is, or just explain government policy when it comes down to looking after all of our society then he might have a debate. To simply repeat headlines from certain sections of the press is not debating.
 
oldfrenchhorn said:
I have a friend who lives in France and her 22 year old grandson who lives in Sussex suffers from Cerebral palsy. He needs assistance to get out of bed, go to the bathroom, and prepare a meal. Although physically he needs help, mentally he is very bright and a whizz kid with computers. The DWP offered him a job last year working to check records of those claiming benefits who had in fact died, yet relatives were still receiving the money. In his first month he found over 200 cases, and saved the taxpayer thousands of pounds, so he was offered an 18 month contract. From April this year he lost his carers allowance, so can no longer go to work as he needed help to get him there.
Just one actual case out of thousands. If SH liked to put forward a case for this being a good thing, how it should be corrected if he doesn't think it is, or just explain government policy when it comes down to looking after all of our society then he might have a debate. To simply repeat headlines from certain sections of the press is not debating.
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This story is one of a long line of negative examples you are so desperate to find to denigrate the UK. I have no knowledge of this case so am unable to comment. Is your anti UK stance somehow used to justify your decision to live in France? I have lived in both countries and much prefer the UK.
I am fully supported of the government's intention to limit support to those that actually need it. There will always be individual mistakes which should be rectified.
 
superhorns said:
This story is one of a long line of negative examples you are so desperate to find to denigrate the UK. I have no knowledge of this case so am unable to comment. Is your anti UK stance somehow used to justify your decision to live in France? I have lived in both countries and much prefer the UK.
I am fully supported of the government's intention to limit support to those that actually need it. There will always be individual mistakes which should be rectified.
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Your reply is typical of you with a non answer. The fact that you were unable to live in France and I can is nothing to do with how shamefully I believe the government is treating the disadvantaged in the UK. You seem to think that if you are told it is fine, then it must be. Just try and justify what is happening by showing what policy is and saying why we should vote for it, then there are grounds for the debate that you want.
 
oldfrenchhorn said:
Your reply is typical of you with a non answer. The fact that you were unable to live in France and I can is nothing to do with how shamefully I believe the government is treating the disadvantaged in the UK. You seem to think that if you are told it is fine, then it must be. Just try and justify what is happening by showing what policy is and saying why we should vote for it, then there are grounds for the debate that you want.
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I chose to reject France because it was not as good as the option of living and creating a business in the UK. France suffers greatly because of its anti business attitude. There are probably thousands of expats who are desperate to return to the UK but cannot do so because of the collapse of the French housing market. The UK has record employment, the French unemployment rate is double the UK's. Unemployment amongst the French young is alarmingly high with no sign of improvement. The Tories have been in power for seven years with another five likely. The public obviously prefer their policies to the alternative. It is for the opposition to up their game and try to stop the landslide becoming a reality. I'm sure you will still be whinging after the election.
 
superhorns said:
I chose to reject France because it was not as good as the option of living and creating a business in the UK. France suffers greatly because of its anti business attitude. There are probably thousands of expats who are desperate to return to the UK but cannot do so because of the collapse of the French housing market. The UK has record employment, the French unemployment rate is double the UK's. Unemployment amongst the French young is alarmingly high with no sign of improvement. The Tories have been in power for seven years with another five likely. The public obviously prefer their policies to the alternative. It is for the opposition to up their game and try to stop the landslide becoming a reality. I'm sure you will still be whinging after the election.
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That says it all. You do not want a debate, so there is little point you complaining.
 
canary-dave said:
I will take a wild guess at why many have stopped posting on this thread, I think it's because SH's posts have moved from mildly amusing to totally boring and abusive!

Just saying! ;)
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superhorns said:
I chose to reject France because it was not as good as the option of living and creating a business in the UK. France suffers greatly because of its anti business attitude. There are probably thousands of expats who are desperate to return to the UK but cannot do so because of the collapse of the French housing market. The UK has record employment, the French unemployment rate is double the UK's. Unemployment amongst the French young is alarmingly high with no sign of improvement. The Tories have been in power for seven years with another five likely. The public obviously prefer their policies to the alternative. It is for the opposition to up their game and try to stop the landslide becoming a reality. I'm sure you will still be whinging after the election.
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The last sentence here says everything. As Frenchie says you do not want to debate but only provoke. Totally unnecessary, and done only for one purpose. If you consider all of us as being whingers and morons on here, then I think I speak for everyone here when I say - go and get your childish gratification somewhere else.
 
colognehornet said:
The last sentence here says everything. As Frenchie says you do not want to debate but only provoke. Totally unnecessary, and done only for one purpose. If you consider all of us as being whingers and morons on here, then I think I speak for everyone here when I say - go and get your childish gratification somewhere else.
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As you and the rest of the clique have ensured there are no posters, apart from me, from a right of centre perspective I consider it my public duty to hang on in there until suitable replacements can be found. It is up to the cliquey anti Tory posters to find reasons why the predicted landslide should not become reality. The odds are well stacked against you.
 
superhorns said:
As you and the rest of the clique have ensured there are no posters, apart from me, from a right of centre perspective I consider it my public duty to hang on in there until suitable replacements can be found. It is up to the cliquey anti Tory posters to find reasons why the predicted landslide should not become reality. The odds are well stacked against you.
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When will you get it into your thick head that the hostility to you has nothing to do with your politics, but rather your constant needling and provoking of others. You have been living like a cat with nine lives on here for too long and on any other forum would have been banned several times over - so you can thank the tolerance of Frenchie that you are still here.
 
colognehornet said:
When will you get it into your thick head that the hostility to you has nothing to do with your politics, but rather your constant needling and provoking of others. You have been living like a cat with nine lives on here for too long and on any other forum would have been banned several times over - so you can thank the tolerance of Frenchie that you are still here.
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As you have been well informed by others there is a clique, which you are a leading member of, that ensures there is no opposition to the favoured left wing and anti Brexit diatribe. Several members have left the forum because of this. You can try to personalise this but the fact that no other right of centre poster feels comfortable in posting should make even you understand there is a problem. Perhaps the titles of the political threads should clearly state only certain views will be tolerated. May I suggest "Guardian readers only"?
 
superhorns said:
As you have been well informed by others there is a clique, which you are a leading member of, that ensures there is no opposition to the favoured left wing and anti Brexit diatribe. Several members have left the forum because of this. You can try to personalise this but the fact that no other right of centre poster feels comfortable in posting should make even you understand there is a problem. Perhaps the titles of the political threads should clearly state only certain views will be tolerated. May I suggest "Guardian readers only"?
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As usual you show no inclination for actually reading texts. Just today you have called us all tossers, Fez is apparently a plonker and Frenchie is not only a whiner but unsuitable to be a mod - and that is only in one day. This has nothing to do with your politics, and I repeat nothing - you are just a WUM who enjoys nothing better than winding up other posters. I am sorry but Dave is right - you are the main reason that many posters do not come onto these threads because you drag every debate down to your own base level.
 
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colognehornet said:
As usual you show no inclination for actually reading texts. Just today you have called us all tossers, Fez is apparently a plonker and Frenchie is not only a whiner but unsuitable to be a mod - and that is only in one day. This has nothing to do with your politics, and I repeat nothing - you are just a WUM who enjoys nothing better than winding up other posters. I am sorry but Dave is right - you are the main reason that many posters do not come onto these threads because you drag every debate down to your own base level.
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It is time for some political correctness was introduced into the debate regarding the small but aggressive anti democratic clique. In a WFC flavour I propose they are renamed 'The Toser gang'. Now they have been clearly described and identified it should lead to an improvement in the level of debate on these political threads. The answer should not be to let them simply shut down debate so the threads becomes a base for the usual anti Brexit / Tory rhetoric.
 
superhorns said:
It is time for some political correctness was introduced into the debate regarding the small but aggressive anti democratic clique. In a WFC flavour I propose they are renamed 'The Toser gang'. Now they have been clearly described and identified it should lead to an improvement in the level of debate on these political threads. The answer should not be to let them simply shut down debate so the threads becomes a base for the usual anti Brexit / Tory rhetoric.
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Actually we can setup and use threads for what we like within the agreed boundaries of courtesy. You could start a Tory party thread if you like. I suggest you have a look at some of the general threads on these boards to see how mild we are in comparison.

Your recent posts have again degenerated into the abuse you say you decry.

Why don't you really take a break...... at the very least
 
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