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    Elf's request <ok>
     
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    There was more than a hint of the bizarre about the meeting at which 27 EU leaders set out their negotiating position on Brexit.

    After getting round the conference table in Brussels, they deliberated for just four minutes before issuing a set of absurdly draconian demands.

    Then, like some 1970s meeting of the Chinese Communist party, they erupted into a protracted round of applause and self-congratulation, as if they had done something terribly clever.

    In fact, what they presented was not so much a negotiating position as an ultimatum to Britain – pay a £50billion penalty, guarantee the rights of all EU citizens living in the UK, give Spain a veto on the future of Gibraltar and promise not to enforce border controls between Northern Ireland and the Irish Republic.

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    And they continued talking tough after the meeting, both directly and through a series of carefully choreographed media briefings. Britain would have to pay a huge price for leaving, they said, and Theresa May was ‘delusional’ if she thought the EU would enter trade talks before the cash was stumped up.

    Jean-Claude Juncker, the insufferably pompous, cognac-loving head of the European Commission, spoke gravely of an ‘early crash’ in negotiations unless we acquiesced. European Council president Donald Tusk said it was time for Britain to ‘get serious’.

    But Britain is already deadly serious, Mr Tusk. Serious about leaving the EU, regaining control of our borders and throwing off the shackles of the European Court. If we have to do that without a trade deal in place, as Mrs May stated again yesterday, we will do so and no amount of bullying or empty threats from Brussels will change that.

    Unlike Mr Tusk and Mr Juncker, Mrs May has a democratic mandate and she intends to honour it.

    These ludicrous blowhards should also remember that Britain imports billions of pounds a year more in goods and services from the EU than we export to them. So German car makers, French wine producers and Irish farmers have more to lose from a trade war than UK manufacturers.

    Of course, there is another agenda. With Euroscepticism rampant across the continent, the EU high command wants to punish Britain for leaving as a warning to other member states not to follow suit. They are terrified that a blast of democracy could soon destroy their cosy little club.

    The Mail is confident Mrs May will not be deflected by these cynical tactics but she needs the full support of the British people in the difficult negotiations to come. The best way to strengthen her hand is to give her a resounding majority on June 8.
     
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    I don't think anyone doubts that The Conservatives will win by a landslide, but I wouldn't assume that she will use that to get a hard Brexit. It also gives her the option of refusing to be bullied by the hard right of her own party.
     
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    The Conservative Party today announced their Election Campaign supremo.

    Jean Claude Juncker said he was delighted with his appointment, which he could only perform part time as he is always p1ssed after lunch.

    "Every time I have opened my mouth in the last week, I have gained the Conservatives lots more votes"

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    The EU has obviously no desire to negotiate with Corbyn <laugh>
     
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    Future Home Secretary Diane Abbot has just given possibly the worst interview ever on LBC. Well worth a listen - the Nick Ferrari Show.

    10,000 new police officers under Labour will cost £80m - that's 8 grand each <laugh>

    She then corrects herself by claiming Labour will recruit 250,000 new police officers <laugh>
     
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    Labour's problem, summed up in one brilliant Tweet -

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    This is a weird election. Everyone knows the result but has to pretend they don't.
     
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    I see the EU now want us to pay them £84billion to leave <laugh>

    Brexit is looking as if it is going to be harder and harder..... this I gather this increase is on the instruction of Mrs Merkel... if this is what she considers amicable <laugh>... lucky Germany have a p1ss poor army otherwise 'Operation Sea Lion' would be back on <whistle>
     
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    Mrs May did say before the referendum that leaving the single market would "not be in Britain's best interest".
     
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    chemotherapy is not in the body's best interests.... but it is better than having cancer <ok>
     
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    It doesn't look to me as though there will be much negotiating. I don't believe that the £84bn is a starting point for negotiations, it is a figure they have worked out and will stick to. Mrs May has presented herself as Tough of the Tories, and can't back down, and so there will be no trade deal.
     
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    Bothered..... do I look bothered.... nah <ok>
     
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    Considering that"Blairite Scum" is just about the worst insult the Corbynistas can throw at anybody, it's surprising that young Jeremy has nicked Blair's favourite soundbite "for the many not the few". It was coined for New Labour in 1995, and has been much used by Blair ever since, even since he left politics. It matches "strong and stable" as a piece of vacuous nonsense, and contradicts the way Corbyn presents himself as an honest Joe.
     
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    Gutsy little woman battling against Johnny Foreigner takes attention away from the governments record at home. Clever stuff, don't blame her one bit.
     
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    Is it me or does the EU seem uninterested in "Free Trade and people?" All I've heard them bang on about is:
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    Juncker, Tusk and Co. have not said, "free trade, what we setup the EEC on the basis of is what is important to all of Europe."

    They just keep saying "we want money and we want to secure income from Britain for a long time." They probably don't care if we leave the free trade block as long as we keep paying them (well my take on it).

    I've heard a lot of politicians and leaders saying that they'd suffer hardship to keep the Union together. Which I find alarming: (1) The citizens of their soveign nations will suffer, and (2) surely that is tantamount to treason against their nation and citizens.

    I've always fundamentally believed that when your government answers not to its citizens and/or its electorate, then we have tyranny and foreign occupation! << The Classical Liberalist in me.
     
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    It's a bloodbath out there!
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    for UKIP .... they had one policy and Mrs May has taken that away.
     
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    They may as well disband. They have got what they wanted. Farage can sit and build up his pension in the European Parliament until Brexit.
     
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