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Can't see Mourinho taking the 'all eggs in one basket' approach. I think they're playing mind games
 
Can't see Mourinho taking the 'all eggs in one basket' approach. I think they're playing mind games
For me there is no way Mourinho will play his key players in the league now. 4th is too much of a long shot. Both Arsenal and LFC are above him and he needs results to go his way as well as winning all his games. He has definitely given up on the league and will rest his players. Anything else will not make sense after what he did at Arsenal.
 
Arsenal playing before us on Saturday is a huge psychological advantage for them I think. They'll be more focused on the job and less pressure than if they knew that they could catch up after we dropped points.

By the time we play West Ham we will know exactly where we stand. Arsenal win we will be under pressure to get a win. A draw for us could let them in. And let's not beat about the bush, missing the CL from where we have been almost the whole season, would be a collapse and a significant failure. No Europe, no cup runs and therefore no excuse.

I think this is all perspective. I could argue to pressure is on arsenal to win and they will feel failures if thry dont.

I could argue we have the day ro be mentally on it for west ham.

I coyld then argue utd may all but give up if both of us win then.

Btw i called this in january. I said then no cups and a slump turns a possibly great season into a mediocre one.

I also said however we were looking at a long slow painful crawl to 6th.... so credit to our players for digging in.

We have struggled but we have co ceded less goals and teied our best with very limited game and options.

So in short 5th... yup poor season.. have to call a spade and spade. 4th... well.. it buys us optimism and bigger opportunities to improve
 
For me there is no way Mourinho will play his key players in the league now. 4th is too much of a long shot. Both Arsenal and LFC are above him and he needs results to go his way as well as winning all his games. He has definitely given up on the league and will rest his players. Anything else will not make sense after what he did at Arsenal.

He plays last. Imo if arsenal **** up he might go for it sunday. I think however.. spurs ahould beat them anyway.
 
He plays last. Imo if arsenal **** up he might go for it sunday. I think however.. spurs ahould beat them anyway.

Its against one of the bigger teams, so no chance he will just put out kids. Mourinho always feels the need to try and prove something. However, the chavs will win the league tonight, so Tottenham can't move up or down whatever the result, they might not care anymore.
 
Its against one of the bigger teams, so no chance he will just put out kids. Mourinho always feels the need to try and prove something. However, the chavs will win the league tonight, so Tottenham can't move up or down whatever the result, they might not care anymore.

I think he will definitely play his second strings and those ineligible for the final from now on. May be not just kids but players like Rooney, Martial, jones Bailly Degea together with his youngsters.
 
I think he will definitely play his second strings and those ineligible for the final from now on. May be not just kids but players like Rooney, Martial, jones Bailly Degea together with his youngsters.

Its against one of the bigger teams, so no chance he will just put out kids. Mourinho always feels the need to try and prove something. However, the chavs will win the league tonight, so Tottenham can't move up or down whatever the result, they might not care anymore.

he played only one kid v arsenal

My view is relatively speaking utd have a big squad that he can easily field a senior side here

HOWEVER... he doesn't turst many senior players so the team he fields will be weak in his eyes

IMO.

De Gea will start in goal
RB is an issue for him thats where he stuck that kid in
LB.. maybe an issue. he really refuses to trust blind at all. blind shoudl play here. it might be darmian though
CB: bailly can start rest of league now.
CB: Jones/ smalling.. who cares?
CM: Carrick will play
CM: Herrera? he took him off after an hour v arsneal... imo he's crucial to mourinho so he will pick him
CM: Wooney. mourinho will stick him in someplace
RW: Lingard. i think morinho gave him contract but he's not first choice
LW Martial/ Mata.. he hates mata. has no time for him.. so he will play.
ST: this is riskiest one. should ideally be martial but who knows. he might over play and injure rashford

DO you see my logic (if there is any?) mourinho does refuses to trust certain players if there is any option even if he is thinking to rest guys. Blind, mata.... rooney.. martial... the guy is paranoid enough to risk injuring players he now had little remaining cover for to avoid seeing the guys he doens't like play

BLind played decent for him at cb for example but i can see mourinho toss him and start and knacker darmian.
 
he played only one kid v arsenal

My view is relatively speaking utd have a big squad that he can easily field a senior side here

HOWEVER... he doesn't turst many senior players so the team he fields will be weak in his eyes

IMO.

De Gea will start in goal
RB is an issue for him thats where he stuck that kid in
LB.. maybe an issue. he really refuses to trust blind at all. blind shoudl play here. it might be darmian though
CB: bailly can start rest of league now.
CB: Jones/ smalling.. who cares?
CM: Carrick will play
CM: Herrera? he took him off after an hour v arsneal... imo he's crucial to mourinho so he will pick him
CM: Wooney. mourinho will stick him in someplace
RW: Lingard. i think morinho gave him contract but he's not first choice
LW Martial/ Mata.. he hates mata. has no time for him.. so he will play.
ST: this is riskiest one. should ideally be martial but who knows. he might over play and injure rashford

DO you see my logic (if there is any?) mourinho does refuses to trust certain players if there is any option even if he is thinking to rest guys. Blind, mata.... rooney.. martial... the guy is paranoid enough to risk injuring players he now had little remaining cover for to avoid seeing the guys he doens't like play

BLind played decent for him at cb for example but i can see mourinho toss him and start and knacker darmian.

Yes, he has enough senior players to play them but they won't be his first 11 (?). Any team containing Rooney is now his second team. Basically I believe he has given up on the league. He's secured a Europa at least and cannot finish below 6th. If he finishes higher than 6th it will be some sort of miracle. I think it is more a "He has no other choice" situation than an "all eggs in one basket " strategy.

Our only rivals for 4th are Arsenal.
 
Not 100% certain that United are going to win the Europa cup. They still have the outside chance of qualifying for champion league via the league.
I believe special one is going to play a strong team against Tottenham on Sunday. Also, they won't like to lose two games in a row.
 
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Not 100% certain that United are going to win the Europa cup. They still have the outside chance of qualifying for champion league via the league.
I believe special one is going to play a strong team against Tottenham on Sunday. Also, they won't like to lose two gamest in a row.

no you are right.

some respect needed for ajax who made the final needed.

On balance utd with the squad and money should win this. They are however missing some big talent for this final... zlatan in particular but now bailly too... rojo is mourinhos favorite thug defender now as well

I think utd need to figure out their best 11 and hope big names like pogba turn up while a relative kid like rashford might or might not freeze a lit on the bigger day.

Utd will be favorites and not just cos most plastics bet on them.. theres good reason for them being favorites

You are right about them not wanting to lose 2 in a row but mourinho is a political animal and he might even engineer a loss to force the boards hand to give him 500mil to spend this summer.

"look i got you CL through back door, you are SO lucky to have me but now i need 50mil or you are toast"
 
What happens if:
  1. we win all our remaining games and our rivals win all their remaining games?
  2. we lose all our remaining games and our rivals lose all their remaining games?
  3. we draw all our remaining games and our rivals draw all their remaining games?
  4. we win enough points to finish the season one or more points ahead of our rivals?
 
For me there is no way Mourinho will play his key players in the league now. 4th is too much of a long shot. Both Arsenal and LFC are above him and he needs results to go his way as well as winning all his games. He has definitely given up on the league and will rest his players. Anything else will not make sense after what he did at Arsenal.

He should take a look at what happened to us last season!
 
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We have wasted our opportunity.By now, City and Arsenal should be fighting for the last four spot if we have taken our chances earlier in the season.I think we need a miracle to finish in the top four.Klopp was joking when he said we are close to Chelsea.
 
We have wasted our opportunity.By now, City and Arsenal should be fighting for the last four spot if we have taken our chances earlier in the season.I think we need a miracle to finish in the top four.Klopp was joking when he said we are close to Chelsea.

<laugh>
 
We are effectively in the CL.

Even if Arsenal get to 72 points, all we need to do is to beat Boro. A completely demoralised side.

EDIT: I meant the play off for the CL.
 
LIVERPOOL.
May 2017 CURRENT POINTS: 73

Liverpool V Middlesbrough
Sun 21 May 15:00

MANCHESTER CITY

May 2017 CURRENT POINTS= 72

Manchester City V West Bromwich Albion
Tue 16 May 20:00

Watford V Manchester City
Sun 21 May 15:00

ARSENAL
May 2017 TOTAL POINTS =69

Arsenal V Sunderland
Tue 16 May 19:45

Arsenal V Everton
Sun 21 May 15:00

TOP FOUR FIGHTERS 2 FROM 3.

we have to win.

never seen a worse bunch of opponents that those.

boro... watford.. west brom.. sunderland.. everton... really all are the same level aren't they? pure utter rubbish and should all be relegated.

Quite how the prem has so many teams like this i dunno.

teams seem now to be able come up and survive... villa should be ashamed of what they allowed happen to their club. Newcastle are similar.. ownership errors it seems.

If you were writing a list of "big" prem teams and then well run good sided clubs Newkie,and villa would be on it.. or should. shameful owners.

in the end having so many little clubs trading purely on the tv shared money is creating a two tier league.... and yet... <laugh> somehow leicester came along and fluked it form relegation fodder to champions.

Its a funny old world.
 
we have to win.

never seen a worse bunch of opponents that those.

boro... watford.. west brom.. sunderland.. everton... really all are the same level aren't they? pure utter rubbish and should all be relegated.

Quite how the prem has so many teams like this i dunno.

teams seem now to be able come up and survive... villa should be ashamed of what they allowed happen to their club. Newcastle are similar.. ownership errors it seems.

If you were writing a list of "big" prem teams and then well run good sided clubs Newkie,and villa would be on it.. or should. shameful owners.

in the end having so many little clubs trading purely on the tv shared money is creating a two tier league.... and yet... <laugh> somehow leicester came along and fluked it form relegation fodder to champions.

Its a funny old world.
Knobhead <ok>
 
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