How emo. I find the Gomes situation more confusing, to be honest. He's not playing, we've got three other keepers and he's miles down the pecking order, so why are we keeping him hanging about? Ok, we can't sell him for any decent amount of money at the moment, so why not loan him out to a Championship side? He plays, they get an international goalkeeper and he might get his confidence back. I can't see how anyone loses in that situation, especially when clubs like Barnsley have to put up with the likes of Alnwick.
I find Lloris as boring as berbatov and modric. If he can't be arsed then he should put in a transfer request.
Colin is the first with such a comment ^. If the Gallic whinger is going to be like this, ie, not welcoming competition and fighting for the place, instead preferring to complain, he can leave. Causing disruption in the squad to the point of threatening to quit, is displaying a poor attitude in front of the rest of his teammates, he is more than welcome to do one if that is the case.
Maybe, but on the flip side, he could quash the whole thing with a statement via the club of his happiness and intent...he hasn't.
He might not want to risk pissing off his whinge-tastic and stroppy international manager, Notso. If that's the case, then I can't say that I blame him.
. Any time the player speaks he insists he's calm and patient with the situation But let's stir it up anyway! This is really a non debate because we don't know the situation. If you care to read Spurcat's post the fuss about the Chelsea game is bullshit because everyone new the situation. Stir the pot and that's another page filled. As far as I am concerned he's a Spurs player he's playing games and all being well he will become Spurs No1 in due course. We cannot expect our manager to pick players based on their reputation he can only deal with what is in front of him and if he did we would pillory him for doing it. Still, I know you like an argument!
Pathetic twat for wanting to leave if it is true. Anyone who says things like ' I don't blame him for wanting to leave' lacks a major skill in their lives. When he has got his chance he hasn't behaved like a top international keeper. So head down Hugo and try to do your job...not easy I suppose judging from Thursdays match where it was imminent with your fluffed clearance, that you can't play with lots of heads stuck up your arse. And if there is no problem then say something and help the situation and help our club by easing the pressure on it.
I think both keepers have made a number of mistakes this season already. Brad has not been as assured as he was last season, he's been at fault or partly to blame for a number of goals (NCFC, WBA, Mata's first, WAFC come to mind) this season already where as last year, I really can't remember too many mistakes. I've put him alongside Walker and Gallas as one of the weak links in our team this season (along with Dempsey and Sig too but as they're new, I'll try and keep an open mind and hope they settle soon). Lloris has come in with a massive reputation and those that follow French football will know what a class keeper he is. Against Villa he nearly cost us a goal and the sloppy combination between him and Naughton did cost us against Maribor Thursday night. That being said, it's been a lot of harder for him than probably any other new player in our squad. With a keeper, very rarely are you able to make a sub appearances to gradually gain match time to get bedded in so his game time has been limited to 1 league game and the cups which are all spread out on an average of 1 game every 2 weeks I'd say. For a new keeper, coming into a new league, with what I'd consider to have big expectations of, it's been very hard for him to be able to build momentum and get into a rhythm and understand his team mates. He's constantly had make shift back fours infront of him so he's not been able to build a real understanding with the players he needs to trust and work with the most. A player of his calibre and stature probably expected to near enough come in straight away and personally I'm surprised if a little disappointed he's not our number 1 now. Mentally it's probably taking his toll on him which is why I think we're not seeing the best of Lloris until he has the manager's confidence and a regualr amount of games. I really hope Lloris becomes number one very soon, the longer he's out the side the worst it'll become for him as his confidence is being knocked by every league game that passes and like strikers and all players in fact, a keeper needs to be positive and confident to produce his best dispays. As good as Brad is/ has been, Lloris is better in my opinion he just needs time to prove it. I also think that with the way Andre "supposedly" likes to play, I think Lloris is far better suited to his system so it's confusing as to why he's still being left out. I honestly believe that he won't want to stick around until next season to become the undisputed number one. I'm pretty sure there'll be a number of teams who'd happily have him in January or the summer if his situtation here isn't sorted out soon.
If his confidence is hit so easily then he is not the goalkeeper for us anyway. Goalkeepers need to be strong minded and thick skinned if not we have another Gomes on our hands. Cuducini was probably the top keeper in the league until Chec came in for Chelsea. He didn't complain and even now when he plays he usually gives a solid professional performance despite spending most of his time on the sidelines.
Alot of respect for Carlo. The best number 2/3 I've seen in last ten years. Made a career of it and seems content and remains professional.
With all due respect to Carlo, you could argue and say that his spell with Chelsea (pre-Cech) aside, he's been happy as a number two throughout his career. Let's be honest, why leave Chelsea's bench for Tottenham's? We all knew when he was signing that he'd be Gomes' understudy as Cesar departed. Fantastic professional but judging by his wikipedia stats, he's never been a regular keeper at his clubs (bar Chelsea) which suggests to me he isn't really an ambitious footballer. To play once every 2/3 weeks and pick up probably £20k/£30k a week, he's laughing - as would anyone really. If he really wanted to prove he was a top keeper and play regularly (which I think Lloris wants) he'd have left Chelsea to join a club that was willing to make him number one, even if it meant joining a club lower in stature or even dropping down a league to then prove his worth and build back up. Lloris on the other hand is 25, the current French number 1 and wants to keep his place in the national side and play as much as possible. I don't think anyone can really blame or moan at him for just wanting to play, he wants to make the most out of his career and at the moment, he's not really getting a chance. If I was Lloris, I think I'd be pretty p*ssed to be honest, left arguably the biggest club in France (albeit they've been on the decline the past 2/3 years) where he was playing week in week out to sit on the bench here while a 41 year old - who lets be honest, even though he's still consistent, his best days are behind him - is being picked above him... It's not doing his confidence or mentality any good.
I confess that I am stunned at the way we have treated Lloris. We buy arguably one of the best (and certainly one of the most expensive) keepers in the world, and then don't play him! It's utterly crazy! Having said that, I'd pay no attention to the French media. I'm sure they think we're doing this on purpose, just to piss them off.
Well said SOS, Lloris is probably the highest rated player to sign for us since Rebrov, maybe Ardilles. it's very rare we get to sign a world class player in his prime. To treat him as we have done is an absolute scandal, and I completely and utterly blame AVB for this disgusting behaviour towards the captain of France. IMHO he should ask for a transfer ASAP, as an absolutely top class professional in his prime, no other course is really available to him.
GH10 those sort of comments help nobody-why is AVB's behaviour disgusting he is the boss. Yes he's captain of his country,yes he's probably world class, but from what I have seen - and that's on TV- he's not completely ofay with his new teamates yet and therefore needs time to understand the different languages they all speak (English,Belgian,French he knows, Portugese). To say he needs to leave after 3 months is bloody stupid and we need to remember that sports media is the same the world over-find small throwaway comment and blow it out of proportion.
OK PL, consider this, Lloris played against Villa, kept our only clean sheet sheet in the Lge so far this season, then performed heroics against Spain, the world champions, in Spain to be MOTM. His reward - to be dropped for the Chelsea game - how would you describe AVB's behaviour towards the captain of France over this matter? But it gets (probably) even worse, because apparently Brad was promised by AVB he would be back for the Chelsea game, this promise was made before or around the time of the Villa game. This promise has been confirmed by Brad apparently, and indeed a poster on here, who has some inside knowledge relating to this matter. Now I don't know if Hugo knew about this promise to Brad, but assuming it happened, Hugo can't be happy whether he knew or not. Furthermore, AVB then told the press and us fans a day or two before the game that he hadn't decided on which goalkeeper to pick, which IF this previous undertaking to Brad is true, sounds suspiciously like a lie to me, it also means that his continued mantra about picking on form and training is blown to pieces, IF such an undertaking was made to Brad. There are other reasons why I think Lloris had been badly treated by AVB, but this is the key one, revolving around the Chelsea game, where clearly IMO Hugo should have started. The word 'disgusting' is an over-reaction and I withdraw that, but I think Hugo has been treated badly. I don't think it's stupid at all to say that Lloris needs to leave, after the bad treatment he has had at the club, he should be looking to get out asap. I'm amazed that he came to us in the first place given his status in world football, but for him to be then shunned as he has been, it's simply all wrong. EDIT - Lloris has been dropped again, so I think that pushes him further towards the exit door, whether it happens in January or the summer.
Gh10 your a Spurs fan. Why are you encouraging the sale of a top player? On the one hand you want us to sign the top players we possibly can as a default mode of thinking as a fan of Spurs. On the other hand you want Lioris gone because he's not playing. Cutting off your nose to spite your Spurs it seems.
