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Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by East_Stand_Always, Nov 14, 2012.

  1. cosicave

    cosicave Well-Known Member

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    Very big.

    As for the earlier part of your post referring to Tweet Based Boost, my opinion is essentially unprintable, so I'll try to water it down a bit! I'm all for innovation but there are some things where one must draw a line…

    • Motor racing is done by competitors; in the first instance for self-indulgence, and secondly – and only for a tiny percentage at the top of the talent pile – as a source of income; although drivers who earn their keep by performing for said spectators may be imbued with a slight sense of obligation as an 'entertainer'.
    • Motor racing is watched by spectators who attend events (or switch on a TV) to be entertained by the spectacle of competition, rather than being perversely involved in the outcome.

    The idea of deliberately blurring what has been (rightly, in my view) a clear and very well-established dividing line is anathema to me, despite the obvious motivation behind the idea being to give spectators a greater sense of involvement. Obviously, in today's technological era, there is huge potential to be exploited. However, the idea itself is not at all novel
    *!

    *Think Romans, Gladiators, and :emoticon-0148-yes: or :emoticon-0149-no: (Edit: Blimey, that took some effort to get into this post!)
     
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  2. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    In that case.... Send karthikeyan to the Lions!!
     
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  3. cosicave

    cosicave Well-Known Member

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    Just imagine if we got Cosi involved and then tweeted him to the championship!
     
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  5. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    Just think Bernie, Someday you might be a part of Formula E along with all the other F1 Rejects <ok> probably as soon as there is any sniff of decent money.
     
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  6. RoadRunner

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    Beijing has unveiled its street circuit:
    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/112885

    Looks almost exactly like the Sydney Olympic Park Circuit for the V8 Supercars (that's not a good thing). It's a giant square with some chicanes in it. Also, what the heck is up with the pitlane?
     
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  7. BrightLampShade

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    wow ...................


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    excitement central there!
     
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  8. nh-f1

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    Wouldn't it have easier to not have those chicanes? There's going to be no overtaking at them, and it doesn't look like they'll be that much of a challenge to the drivers
     
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  9. DHCanary

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  10. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    Yay good news. Well done ITV! Get Tony Jardine and Jim Rosenthal on the phone right now
     
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  11. Han Shot First

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    What happens if someone forgets to bring a plug socket?
     
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  12. eddie_squidd

    eddie_squidd Well-Known Member

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    Lots and lots of double A's.
     
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  13. DHCanary

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    Saw someone make an interesting comment on twitter (it happens occasionally!). One of the big concerns about F-E was the lack of noise that the cars produced, which would ruin the spectacle. Now F1 has much less noise (at least on TV), will this help convert people to the new series? Whilst F-E might be closer to GP2 or 3 in pace, and lack some of the glamour initially, it's going to be freely available to watch and showcase a lot of decent drivers.
     
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  14. DHCanary

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    The Formula E Driver's club expands further!

    Trulli, Heidfeld, d'Ambrosio and Sam Bird are the new names added, giving:

    Daniel Abt - Audi Sport Abt
    Christijan Albers
    Jaime Alguersuari
    Jerome d'Ambrosio
    Marco Andretti
    Nathanaël Berthon
    Sam Bird
    Marco Bonanomi
    Sébastien Bourdais
    Alex Brundle
    Sébastien Buemi
    Adam Carroll
    Karun Chandhok
    Dani Clos
    Ben Collins
    Conor Daly
    Robert Doornbos
    Kuba Giermaziak
    Lucas di Grassi
    Nick Heidfeld
    J. R. Hildebrand
    Ryo Hirakawa
    Ma Qing Hua
    Narain Karthikeyan
    Christian Klien
    Jon Lancaster
    Katherine Legge
    Vitantonio Liuzzi
    Nicolas Minassian
    Franck Montagny
    Giorgio Pantano
    Agustin Paya
    Adrian Quaife-Hobbs
    Stéphane Sarrazin
    Takuma Sato
    Bruno Senna
    Oriol Servià
    Adrien Tambay
    Jarno Trulli

    Mostly a pretty solid field there, with the cars being identical to begin with, I'm hoping for some close racing.
     
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  15. EternalMSC

    EternalMSC Well-Known Member

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    All these drivers can't be racing at the same time can they?
     
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  16. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    I think one team had already confirmed their line up
     
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  17. Julius Caesar

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    These are just the people who have said they want to race. It up to the teams who they choose. IIRC there are 10 teams.
     
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  18. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    yeah, 10 teams, 20 drivers 40 cars.
    Personally I think it would be a good idea to add a 'team' that featured young up and coming 'guest' drivers from the country/city hosting that race weekend.
     
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  19. DHCanary

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    The drivers listed are all "ambassador's" for Formula E, and have to be named as such to be in contention for a race seat. I think the idea is that from the outside it looks like all of these drivers are keen to race and it'll be a competitive series, rather than sporadic, often uninspiring driver announcements that make it look like the teams are struggling to get quality drivers interested. I don't expect there's much demands placed on the drivers in order to make the list, so some are probably just doing it to leave the opportunity open should they need/want it.

    I was curious what F1 links there are, surprisingly more than I thought. There's enough F1 experience there to fill the grid with dubious combinations of ex-F1 team drivers. Take a look at these "dream" teams:

    E-Prost: Trulli, Heidfeld
    E-Williams: Clos, Senna
    Super-AgurE: Sato, Montagny
    EJordan: Pantano, Karthikeyan
    Green-Bull: Klien, Buemi
    Toro Verde: Alguersuari, Bourdais
    Minard-E: Doornbos, Albers, Legge
    Force Endia: Hildebrand, Liuzzi
    E-HRT: Ma Qing Hua, Chandhok
    E-Virgin: di Grassi, d'Ambrosio
    "E-Brawn": Bird, Andretti


    For reference, who people have driven for.

    Christijan Albers - Minardi, Midland, Spyker
    Jaime Alguersuari - Toro Rosso
    Jerome d'Ambrosio - Virgin, Lotus
    Marco Andretti - Honda
    Sam Bird - Mercedes
    Sébastien Bourdais - Toro Rosso
    Sébastien Buemi - Toro Rosso, Red Bull
    Karun Chandhok - HRT, Caterham
    Dani Clos - Williams, HRT
    Robert Doornbos - Minardi, Red Bull
    Lucas di Grassi -Renault, Virgin
    Nick Heidfeld -Prost, Sauber, Jordan, Williams, Sauber
    J. R. Hildebrand - Force India
    Ma Qing Hua - HRT, Caterham
    Narain Karthikeyan - Jordan, HRT
    Christian Klien - Jaguar, Red Bull, HRT
    Katherine Legge - Minardi
    Vitantonio Liuzzi - Red Bull, Toro Rosso, Force India, HRT
    Franck Montagny - Super Aguri
    Giorgio Pantano - Jordan
    Takuma Sato - Jordan, BAR, Super Aguri
    Bruno Senna - HRT, Renault/Lotus, Williams
    Jarno Trulli -Minardi, Prost, Jordan, Renault, Toyota, Lotus
     
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  20. cosicave

    cosicave Well-Known Member

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    I'm very pleased to see continued interest in what really is a ground-breaking series.
    The noise factor is a very peculiar oddity; but I have a hunch people will gradually become accustomed and
    that the 'problem', if that's what it is, will gradually fade.

    For the moment of course, and for the next decade at least, F1 and FE will remain poles apart. But I can foresee a closing of the gap as F1 considers it's place in tomorrow's world; and FE loosens its regulations to allow teams to build their own chassis, and for other teams to enter into the series.

    I'm also very comforted by the news that it will be 100% free to view in the UK. This was essential, in my opinion.
     
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