Gangsta, my personal experience is that people who come from mainly middle-class white areas tend to be more liberal and accepting of other races/cultures than those from areas like Bradford and Beeston where there are intermingled, but hostile communities of different races. And how can it be racist to abose the Poles? Is 'Pole' an ethnicity these days? It's just a form of nationality-based discrimination, but not racism. Maybe if it were along the same lines as Hitler's anti-Slav stuff, but I doubt it is most of the time.
Education is pivitol. Areas with low attainment tend to have problems with racism. These are generally smaller, often former industrial towns, but not exclusively. Integration is also important. I know this is particularly a problem with some Asian communities, indeed, I worked on a number of projects in my last job to address this issue. If you have two ethic groups living next to each other but not interacting, then you're not gaining the benefits I discussed in my last post. Education and interaction lead to cohesion.
I disagree. People from the middle-class white areas are more often than not more racist than those living in your Bradfords, Leicesters and Beestons. I live in Rutland which is probably 99.9% white middle class and some of the racism is extraordinary. I can't comment on what happens in the communities you'll find in those cities for sure having never lived in one, but if it's worse than what I experience in Rutland then there is a massive issue.
Real racism though or just the odd joke with mates? By the way, is Rutland Water as amazing as I imagine it to be?
Footy fans have allways sung insults at each other .... We have chants of Yorkshire bastards / dirty northern bastards aimed at us ... From now on I will cry and report those nasty southern supporters who sing such things. . is everyone going soft in the head nowadays ?
What's the difference? Seriously though, do you have mates that do this? I've only ever had one, and he was Spanish. We didn't stay friends for long. The only other people that done this have been doormen that I've worked with, but you expect that from people with the IQ of a mango.
Most people I know have made racial jokes, and that includes white, Asian and black friends. Humour breaks down barriers. It's certainly not the same as being actually discriminatory with your actions, which is true racism in my eyes.
All of which is just your opinion. However much you'd like that opinion to have any basis in fact it simply doesn't in the way you'd like it to based on most credible research. Things like clashes between non-white minorities not being described as racially motivated for example. "And skin colour, as you've somewhat naively decided to focus on" Remind me again which racist was making derogatory remarks about groups of white people. I take it your own racism on this thread is due to your own lack of decent education, which in itself is self-evident?
If you're into long walks/bike rides, wildlife, fishing, birdwatching, scenery, sailing, canoeing, kayaking, rafting or picnics then it's right up your street. It's a lovely place, but after living next to it all my life I don't have a massive interest in it, but then that's the same with most things.
I kind of agree with this, it depends on how people take it. South Park is a good example. Its like this episode showed, its how you take it that counts. [video=youtube;9AoyYLhgKq4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AoyYLhgKq4[/video]
Hey gangsta , just because I can't spell or do punctuation doesn't mean **** ... Left school at 15 never took one exam but until 1988 iv Allways had a job .. Worked on trawlers n fishing cobbles all my life .. Never needed punctuation to shoot nets , work a sonar , fish finder or find my way back home .. Banter / insults between rival fans has and will allways happen ..signing your not English anymore isn't real racism in my opinion.
Hell of a lot to take in on posts that have crossed into the early hours of this morning .. My view - the majority of people I have come across in my life are not intrinsically racist. Intolerance often stems from a mixture of a lack of education and a lack of familarity with foreign people and culture. I agree with the view expressed by some that the more dangerous form of racism tends to be in less well-off areas - whilst it exists in the more middle class areas it tends to be more subtle, and sometimes patronising. IMO this is because such people are better educated yet can have an element of snobbery / elitism. The racism in poorer areas is often misinformed and contradictory - stemming from a fear of the unknown plus a mistaken premise that foreigners are taking 'our jobs' - ironic when also expressed by succesive generations who have not worked because the menial jobs that the foreigners actually take to get a foothold on the employment ladder would not cover benefits that are accepted as a 'right' rather than something that should be a temporary sub from those of us that contribute. Humour does indeed break down barriers - I mentioned on an earlier post that I have both worked with and am friends with the parents of Tom Adeyemi (the Oldham player abused at Anfield recently). Tom's father is Nigerian by birth, has a wicked sense of humour and was particularly fond of jokes that poked fun at his own ethnicity. That might not be common but it is indeed fact. Perhaps that was because he was extremely intelligent and well educated himself and didn't therefore take the absurd personally - I can only conjecture. The real truth is that race, creed and colour have no direct baring on the integrity, humanity, worth or likeability of an individual - personally I have known diamonds from most and also real gits. For those that disagree with me ... "Your just a bunch of Weasleys" ...now I'm going back to work Crazy Horse
Here's a report that I worked with back in 2005: http://www.nottinghamshire.police.uk/uploads/library/148/CM2005 Final.pdf Scroll down to page 8. Ashfield's major town is Hucknall. Bassetlaw has Worksop and Retford, two more areas in need of regeneration and of low attainment in schools. Mansfield as the highest crime rate per number of ethnics. These areas are also predominately white. But it's just my opinion of course. If an area is very much recognised as an area of deprivation, many due to poor infrastructure and lack of funding, how is calling these areas ****holes racist? It has no bearing on the people. Regarding education, you should go back to which ever establishment taught you reverse psychology and ask for your money back. You're very poor at it.
It's a fine balance between breaking down barriers and putting up more. You can have a laugh with people without referencing skin colour or religion. I've never done it and neither have any of my friends, and I don't think it's stopped us from bonding any more.
We used to sing 'you're not English any more' to the Chelsea and Man City fans, due to them having foreign owners throwing money at their respective clubs, why is anyone assuming this is with reference to Asians(other than Thai's obviously)? Seems a complete waste of resources to me, I can't believe anyone is actually offended by this, it's nearly as daft as those fans being charged with Homophobic chanting at Brighton, just for singing 'does your boyfriend know you're here'.
