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Foreign TV rights - should we be able to sell our own ??

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by theHotHead, Oct 12, 2011.

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  1. lennypops

    lennypops Well-Known Member

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    I think that might be for the best...
     
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  2. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member
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    I don't think that the FFP rules are particularly fair, either.

    Introduce a squad wage cap.
    That way everyone's competing on a relatively even level, but teams with a youth production line would be at an advantage.
     
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  3. District Line

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  4. goonercymraeg

    goonercymraeg Amnesia
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    In all honesty fans from all our teams contributed to the European ban.Heysel was just the straw that broke the camel's back
     
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  5. Lucaaas

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    I'm not in favour of these laws but surely if people are wanting the league to be fair, then surely something should be done about smaller clubs doubling their ticket prices and taking advantage of the support of big clubs like Liverpool, Man Utd, Arsenal etc. It seems to me that small clubs are allowed to milk the Man Utd/Liverpool/Arsenal brand more than the clubs themselves are!
     
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  6. goonercymraeg

    goonercymraeg Amnesia
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    Good point <ok>
    The only problem is even the "big clubs" put up their ticket prices for games against other big clubs
     
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  7. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member
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    Ticket pricing is a separate issue, but it needs to be addressed across the board.
    The cost is far too high at the moment.
     
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  8. District Line

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    Liverpool are nowhere near as big as Arsenal or United.

    United, Arsenal, Chelsea and to a lesser extent City get bums on seats, Liverpool no longer do due to decades of mediocrity and terminal decline. I would say even Spurs and City are probably more lucrative fixtures for fans of so called "smaller club" to attend and leech money off.
     
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  9. Swarbs

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    All UEFA do is run the CL, EL and Euros - they have no more power than CONCAF and all the other continental ones. FIFA do all the rules and regs for the game as a whole. UEFA's power purely comes

    Alternatively, SAF prefers having a fair PL which is actually a challenge to win. I think if Utd had such a massive financial advantage that they could win the PL every season without breaking a sweat a la Barca, SAF would have retired long ago...

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/4634179.stm <ok>

    Not entirely sure how fair that would be. Given that Blackpool only had a revenue of £9 million when they entered the PL it would be impossible to have a completely fair wage cap. Besides which, the cap would need to be Europe wide or all the best players would just bugger off to Spain...
     
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    To be fair Utd and Liverpool are raking in more money from their shirt sponsorship that some of these small clubs make from their entire annual revenue. The price rises of the smaller clubs are fractional when compared to the massive commercial power of the bigger ones.
     
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    I did mean a Europe wide (or worldwide?) wage cap, but I think that it would have to be set at a respectable level.
    Some teams still wouldn't be able to meet it, but it would be fairer than the current system, where a club like Everton has less than a third of the wage bill of Chelsea, for example.
     
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    It was a big straw: 39 killed.

    If it had just been another riot with no fans killed we would not have been banned; and in that season 84/5, club fans had been well behaved in Europe
     
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  13. Jonesey

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    Geoff Mesher should get his facts straight then.

    Liverpool aren't seeking to sell their domestic rights, only overseas <doh>
     
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  14. Beefforhire-NCFC

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    Unless you want to play against your reserves every week it would kill te Premier league.

    Clubs like mine (Norwich) rely soley on this money, this move just shows greed and a further step towards a "super league" within Europe or worldwide for the so called "big clubs"

    I think I speak for most "small clubs" when I say if you want to play Abu dabi FC every week for a bazillion quid be our guest, we'll play the proper football whole your doing that...
     
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  15. goonercymraeg

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    How much trouble had there been in Europe in the seasons beforehand?
     
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  16. goonercymraeg

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    How much do Norwich charge away fans ?
     
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  17. Lucaaas

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    Why take it out on the fans of the bigger clubs though?
     
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  18. bobgee

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    It's easy.

    Let the "small clubs" refuse to play at Liverpool if the proceeds of the broadcasts are not shared 50/50, and then refuse to allow Liverpool to televise the game when they are away from home unless they make the same agreement.

    Sauce for the goose and all that.................
     
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  19. theHotHead

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    Football will always be a sport to me so the idea of fairness will always be overwhelming. I don't want to win because we had the greatest spending power or some other unfair advantage.

    I want Arsenal to win the Arsenal way, fair enough, the Arsenal way of late has been utter pants, but I like many Gooners believe in the ideals Wenger believes in, I just think he needs to spend some sodding money to fix our problems, but the overall idea of spending what you earn and developing players is noble and something all clubs should strive towards.

    One thing is certain, Sky ruined football.
     
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  20. Swarbs

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    I wouldn't say it's taking it out on the fans of the bigger clubs tbh. We can still watch our team play live pretty much every week - around 66% of Utd and Liverpool games were televised last season. And if the rights were sold individually, I reckon even more 3pm kick offs would be lost due to the need to fit them around Soccer Sunday and maximise the revenue. So the fans going to the stadium wouldn't benefit at all.
     
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