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Safc83 said:
Classic English attitude....

When they come to our country we expect them to speak OUR language. When we go to their country we expect them to speak OUR language <laugh>
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I always try my best when I'm on business mate, to learn a few words, but English is the language of business, for now anyway.

We've already won at life by being born English, that's some quote, not verbatim, that I read the other day. I'm not going to feel sorry for those who have to learn something to get by in life. I've got more important things to bother myself with, such as seeing if I can flick this old stack of business cards in my office bin from across the room, the Romanian cleaner will be along in a bit to pick the ones up that've missed <laugh>
 
Gordon Armstrong said:
Mrs. A and I learned Spanish a good few years ago, because we regularly had/have our Glenn Hoddledays in Majorca :emoticon-0157-sun:

Whenever I go there I never speak English unless I really have to, and the Spaniards (in the main) appreciate the fact that I make the effort :emoticon-0100-smile

I've mentioned my views before about the appalling standard of English grammar spoken by 'us' and, unfortunately, it really is a 'lost cause' simply because people, generally, accept these extremely poor standards. Consequently, people don't know what they're doing wrong if nobody corrects them :emoticon-0101-sadsm

I mentioned an example a few days ago, whereby people, like Jamie Redknapp, Merson etc., say 'fink' or 'fort' or 'free' and people just accept this as being alright :emoticon-0112-wonde

No it ****ing isn't :emoticon-0130-devil . . . . but if nobody mentions it, and if companies like Sky employ lazy bastards like them, it becomes 'the norm' and we become a country that can't be bothered (or should that be bovvered ?) to speak properly <doh>

The problem is exacerbated when foreigners (like footballers) are taught to speak like they're thick (fick, I mean) and they appear on the telly as icons/heros that young-uns 'look up to' :embarrassed:

Anyway, I speak pigeon Spanish :emoticon-0100-smile

p.s. someone on here speaks fluent French :emoticon-0105-wink:
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Absolutely spot on! I feel very lazy and try to make a little effort when I'm abroad - I will always try to learn basics when going anywhere so I don;t seem like an ignorant tourist (sarcasm in my last post) - as for sky employing these pricks that are lazy! Christ I shudder when I hear it on TV - I don;t like it in everyday life when someone says "somefink like" etc like you say but a number of these are not paid huge salaries by people subscribing to Sky!
 
Typical_Juan said:
The first part is true.

The second part is not true. He's a great footballer but he's still a scouser. When he leaves, he won't be in my hall of fame with Eric and Paul.
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Eric Gates and Paul Hardyman? Nice of you to put two of our old players in there....
 
Typical_Juan said:
Not like you lot, constantly sucking off Lee Clark

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I'm one of the few Sunderland fans that doesn't actually have a problem with Clark. He was a cracking player for Sunderland and was a big asset in his time here. I have been told exactly what happened with the t-shirt incident by somebody who was involved in it and I don't hold it against him.

He was class and always gave 100% for us, which nobody can deny.
 
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Safc83 said:
I'm one of the few Sunderland fans that doesn't actually have a problem with Clark. He was a cracking player for Sunderland and was a big asset in his time here. I have been told exactly what happened with the t-shirt incident by somebody who was involved in it and I don't hold it against him.

He was class and always gave 100% for us, which nobody can deny.
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I rest my case <laugh>
 
Typical_Juan said:
I always try my best when I'm on business mate, to learn a few words, but English is the language of business, for now anyway.

We've already won at life by being born English, that's some quote, not verbatim, that I read the other day. I'm not going to feel sorry for those who have to learn something to get by in life. I've got more important things to bother myself with, such as seeing if I can flick this old stack of business cards in my office bin from across the room, the Romanian cleaner will be along in a bit to pick the ones up that've missed <laugh>
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Cecil Rhodes, created Rhodesia. Not the most pleasant of men.
 
Safc83 said:
I'm one of the few Sunderland fans that doesn't actually have a problem with Clark. He was a cracking player for Sunderland and was a big asset in his time here. I have been told exactly what happened with the t-shirt incident by somebody who was involved in it and I don't hold it against him.

He was class and always gave 100% for us, which nobody can deny.
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I'm one of the lots that has.
He's a scrawny, spotty, acne, pock marked bastard that looks like he's got syphilis.
If he croaked tonight I'd laugh & get pissed.
 
Typical_Juan said:
Nowhere near as relevant today as China and The Middle East for making money.

If it's being learned as some sort of hobby, or travel exercise then it's even more pointless.
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depends on your hobby, non, mon amie?

i'd say Chinese (mandarin), spanish and english the 3 main global languages for commerce. it'd be nice if us Brits could get at least one right, never mind the other 2.

i'd put Arabic, French and Russian on a par. high concentrations of wealth.

'arabic' has a lot of diversity, its a bit like the Slavic languages (covering a number of geographically grouped countries but each with their own version) but not as widely spoken as French. at least that is my understanding of it having lived out in the gulf.

for gulf arabs, where the money is, they all speak English anyway - esp. the ones with the dosh being privately educated, primarily in England or the US. for the rest, why bother - Uzbeki Arabic, anyone?

i speak a bit German, Spanish, Finnish, Czech and Arabic..... the tiniest amount possible!

two of my sisters bagged the languages in our crew: 5 and 4 each. me and another took art, math, science n sport....the others went into sales!!
 
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Nordic said:
depends on your hobby, non, mon amie?

i'd say Chinese (mandarin), spanish and english the 3 main global languages for commerce. it'd be nice if us Brits could get at least one right, never mind the other 2.

i'd put Arabic, French and Russian on a par. high concentrations of wealth.

'arabic' has a lot of diversity, its a bit like the Slavic languages (covering a number of geographically grouped countries but each with their own version) but not as widely spoken as French. at least that is my understanding of it having lived out in the gulf.

for gulf arabs, where the money is, they all speak English anyway - esp. the ones with the dosh being privately educated, primarily in England or the US. for the rest, why bother - Uzbeki Arabic, anyone?

i speak a bit German, Spanish, Finnish, Czech and Arabic..... the tiniest amount possible!

two of my sisters bagged the languages in our crew: 5 and 4 each. me and another took art, math, science n sport....the others went into sales!!
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I guess it depends on what industry you're in.

For educational purposes, displaying the aptitude to learn Mandarin is a lot different to showing an ability to learn German in my opinion.

The possibilities of employment in this country as an Arabic linguist are way beyond those available to people who speak German fluently.
 
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