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For sale. Part 47

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by Somebodys pinched my sombrero, Dec 3, 2018.

  1. Eddie's British Plodders

    Eddie's British Plodders Well-Known Member

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    CaptainChaos used his mind control on you...
    About a week previous...

    CC: He paid 146 plus 100million 11 years ago when the club were European regulars full of decent players. It's worth 150 to 200

    Jonjo: Man have you read anything on it? Check out Kieran Maguire. It’s worth around £270m.
     
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  2. Captainchaos.

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    What can I say
     
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  3. Prince Isak (GG)

    Prince Isak (GG) Well-Known Member

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    It is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Therefore it is NOT worth £300m.

    Ashley is at a crossroad. Does he accept whats on offer, £200m with a potential bonus of £100m if we make champions league. Or wait it out and eventually lose money because as it stands we are very close to losing Rafa and losing our position in the premier league.

    There are other things to consider:

    The HMRC investigation and potential future liability.
    The future £55m of future lease payments that appeared in 2016/2017 accounts. Who is this to? Ashley. This increases his return effectively.
    The Strawberry Place fiasco.
    Future advertising rights for Sports Direct.

    There will be many more as well. But for every game that we lose in January and for every day that goes by without us signing a player the chances of him getting top dollar are slipping away.
     
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  4. Lord Jonjomort

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    CC was saying it should be for sale at 150-200, which I disagreed with, as he wasn't clear that the overall price would need to include the loan (in which case we agree, and always have).

    Kieran Maguire (price of football) puts it around 270m which compensates for Ashley getting advertising as per previous comments from Groot, and is probably why his starting point is £300m with room to move.

    The problem as I wrote is that investors won't - in my experience - fund loan repayments. As about 35% of the "value" of the club is effectively debt, it's going to be a challenge for anyone to buy it. I think it will happen, though, as I'd imagine football people like Kenyon will know more about the kind of serviced overdrafts we'd need to set up. They'll also be looking at monies owed by other clubs - currently around £50m? - to work out the full financial picture.
     
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  5. LiamO

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    Eh? Are you ok? The guy is a cancerous leech. He is sucking all the fans love out of our club. I used to live and breathe this team. Now I don't care. I hate him. If you think we will be better off with him than someone else then sorry, you must be ****ing mental!
     
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  6. Albert's Chip Shop

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    Comedy gold.

    A thread about anger issues... where the OP get's quickly angry with folk.

    Mackems <laugh>
     
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  7. Judge Death

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    They are indeed the gift that keeps on giving....
     
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  8. jimileysbaldhead

    jimileysbaldhead Well-Known Member

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    " good morning.....Amazon customer services, who's calling "

    " Never mind who's calling you nosey c*nt, where's my f*cking book on anger management. If it's not been delivered by 2.00pm today, I'll come down there and rip your f*cking head off "
     
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  9. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    Come on Jonjo, Ashley cares about ST renewals. He may have ridiculously thick skin and not give a hoot if the fans think hes a ****, but when it comes to money he wants every last penny available to him.

    I would love to have the hope that he was trying to sell, Staveley and Kenyon have been serious etc. I just can't see it.
     
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  10. G4rdToonArmy

    G4rdToonArmy Well-Known Member

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    I had this discussion last year with someone during the whole Stalvey incident.

    The product is worth what the owner is willing to sell for. You can't go to a supermarket and haggle on a loaf of bread, you can offer what you like for a house or a car but unless the owner accepts its not going to be sold to you, Mike has said £300m so that is what it will sell for.

    Is it worth that - No, Do you make reasonable, solid, logical points Yes, Will it sell for less - No we are not dealing with a man of sense only greed.
     
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  11. Charlie Dogscock

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    What a bizarre thread.....starts off with some Teesdarlomackem pissed off cos he's been fleeced for some house repairs, fair enough there's nothing wrong with venting via a thread like that. He then starts attacking just about everyone who comments, then we get CBD_saffy offering to make some Rambo style vigilante justice group against cowboy builders. We then get a poor sob story from thefanwithnoname who is down on his luck, on bail and separated from his family after an altercation that wasn't his fault....then the thread hurtles headlong into flights of fancy about how he's some kinda of Bruce Lee meets Terminator, and got attacked by 5 people and left them all fighting for their lives!!!

    Only the Mackems....
     
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  12. Albert's Chip Shop

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    Mackem fight club at it's best.
     
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  13. Prince Isak (GG)

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    But if someone offers said £300m that is because they are willing to pay that. If not they walk away.

    You cannot compare it to a super market. If the price is to high at a supermarket and it is cheaper somewhere else I go somewhere else or I just don't but it.

    You can compare selling/buying the club to selling/buying a house. I wanted £250k for my house that I sold last year but no-one would pay it, so I had to drop it. I got £225k for it in the end because that was the highest offer on the table.
     
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  14. Captainchaos.

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    Guess who did his house repairs
     
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  15. Rum & Black for 2

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    Agree with GG on this one.

    The Club, or anything come to that, is only worth what someone will pay for it and not the other way round.

    Ashley could claim he would only sell the Club for £750M but that doesn't make the Club worth that amount. The crux is that even if the Club is worth only say £220M that doesn't mean Ashley has to sell it at that price.

    Push comes to shove the Club is only worth whatever someone is prepared to pay for it but it will only be sold once both parties agree how much is to be paid.
     
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  16. G4rdToonArmy

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    Get what your saying but still you the owner decided on the price in the end. If you didn't want to take £225k (I'd have got you more :emoticon-0126-nerd:) you couldn't be forced in to taking it.

    Like I say its only what is acceptable to the owner, I can compare it to supermarkets because some people will buy at high end stores as opposed to Lidl and Aldi etc for their loaf of bread and I don't think Waitrose will cry themselves to sleep at for a few people going to buy the 50p loaf elsewhere when theirs is selling at £2.20.

    But I'll stress again - I think you are right but equally I don't think Ashley thinks like normal people.
     
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  17. G4rdToonArmy

    G4rdToonArmy Well-Known Member

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    You would.... :emoticon-0110-tongu

    Although you are agreeing with me that Ashley won't sell unless the price suits him.
     
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  18. Rum & Black for 2

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    They don't call me splinters for nothing...

    <hug>
     
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  19. Albert's Chip Shop

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    What because you have a face like a rat?

    please log in to view this image
     
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  20. Rum & Black for 2

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    Can we not just get over our "tiff" this morning?

     
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