Except that the cheap prices are for standing behind the goal. Something which you can't do in this country. The prices for seats behind the goals at Bayern are 36euros and down the sides 70euros. And there re dearer sides in Germany, Hamburg is 76euros down the sides. Which makes a lot of Premier clubs look no so expensive as not everyone wants or is able to get a ticket to stand behind the goal. Certainly our prices at Cityare a lot cheaper. Anyone can quote the bits that suit them. Would these saying how wonderful the German set up is be in favour of drink being dispensed on the terraces during the game? Or smoking allowed as it is there? And looking at the whinging and horror on here, have loads of flags on long poles waved about, or having seen the hysteria which greeted the setting off of one smoke flare, the large amount of flares set off there?
In 2011-12 Utd paid £50m on debts incurred from the Glazers buying the club with money they didnt have. That's TWO RVP's: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2013/apr/23/manchester-united-glazers-finance Just in case you cant be bothered to read it: ' the Glazer takeover has cost United more than £550m. Yet even after paying all that, United still have £420m debt derived from the Glazers' takeover.' That's a whole new state of the art stadium. Or to use your analogy, 20 RVPs. And people wonder where it all went wrong....
Funny you should talk about this, Was reading about UTD's debt Yesterday and they reckon the real debt is 420 million,785 million and 1.5 billion . But some site's say UTD make a profit. With news of fergie leaving UTD had lost 80 million on market Was an interesting and made for crazy reading http://andersred.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/500m-of-costs-later-could-we-see-debt.html http://news.sky.com/story/1086096/manchester-uniteds-debt-pile-drives-loss http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glazer_ownership_of_Manchester_United http://www.caughtoffside.com/2010/0...idence-that-glazers-are-in-very-real-trouble/
One of the main reasons why prices are so high is that the grounds are so small. If they had bigger grounds they could have some cheaper prices. If City's ground was a lot bigger they could charge less for some seats and more for others. There would be more fans who would buy food and drink as well as buy more merchandise. They could charge less for youngsters to increase future generations. There would be a better atmosphere that should help the team and also make it more enjoyable for the fans which would mean even more fans attend.
But you need bums on seats before you increase stadium seating! What is the interaction of the club with the City ? Meaning what ways do they encourage people to come and support the tigers? As i dont live in Hull , Were i live Rochdale FC has some sort of training groups which come out to schools and help kids with training Does City do the same?
Why? Next season we will be selling 20,000 + tickets every week. If we had a 35k capacity stadium and we sold the extra seats for less than now and we increased the best seat prices. Had more hospitality and better food and drink and more merchandising capacity the club will be better off. I don't know of any rule that says you have to be at capacity before you extend capacity or change prices.
Why? Next season we will be selling 20,000 + tickets every week. If we had a 35k capacity stadium and we sold the extra seats for less than now and we increased the best seat prices. Had more hospitality and better food and drink and more merchandising capacity the club will be better off. I don't know of any rule that says you have to be at capacity before you extend capacity or change prices.
Forgive the intrusion - obviously the maths work in your example - but it does not take into account an absentee factor i.e if your capacity is 30,000 in your example how many more people might turn up at the lower price than at the higher - and what would that mean in terms of increased merchandising take? - hotdogs, burgers, programmes, club shop etc? The German model obviously works - there are two German teams contestin the 'Money Grabbers League' final ... and the atmospheres at both Dortmund and Munich are fantastic (and the stadiums full) - there surely must be some lessons for the English game to learn?
And when the novelty wears off! or we get relegated! What was our avg about 17K We would end up like Wigan or Sunderland !
1. Why should we get relegated without the possibility of promotion again? 2 Sunderland have an average attendance of 40K 3 If we keep capacity at 25K that is going to be an impediment to progress.
With 7k empty seats? So We extend the stadium on an off chance we might Avg 30k in a 35k stadium? we avg 17k Now So now we are up we will get 22-25k for our first season if we stay up! But if we drop we could get 15-17k? So it dont make sense at the moment to increase the stadium !
The present attendances are due to the economy. Why do you think our attendances will go down if we reduce our prices? You don't seem to be thinking flexibly. You reduce prices and get bigger attendances which in turn spend more money on things other than ticket prices. Later when there is more demand we have the capacity with more higher prices. If we wait until we are full all the time we wont want to increase capacity because the building work will cause a reduction in capacity until it's complete.
One thing i do know Hull has always been in a recession. So it not that! and i can't see them lowering prices all though a good idea! Now i went to a Bury game the other day and if you was out of work you paid a £10 and if not you paid normal price £21. So if the club could do something like this this might work! But i would be embarrassed pulling out my Giro book to prove i am out of work
It's always good to differentiate like this. That's why they do it with young and old. Hull has always been in a recession, eh? I think you are wrong there. Besides, I used to support City when they would regularly get over 30k.
I was been sarcastic!!! As the the City has hit harder times then most! are we talking about the same club? And in what season were we regularly getting 30k?
And was that the only season we got 30k or was there more after this time? And facts are sadly we aren't getting that now!
We got over 30K in quite a few games in the next few years. You don't seem to understand elasticity of demand. If we reduced prices we would get bigger attendances and the elasticity of demand would determine whether we made more from it. This is without even taking into account merchandising and other non-ticket sales. Remember we have not played any games in the Premier League recently so we have got nothing to compare it to. It's widely said that we have got a better team than the last time we got promotion but what may affect attendances is what team we have next season. We do know that we can only accommodate a certain low number of fans.
