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Discussion in 'Charlton' started by lardiman, Mar 26, 2020.

  1. The Penguin

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    Man City face about 180 charges, and have an army of top lawyers. It will take an eternity. It will be Jarndyce and Jarndyce.
     
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  2. lardiman

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    First you don't know whether you've scored a goal anymore (VAR).
    Now you won't know whether your team has survived or been relegated at the end of a season.

    The footballing authorities are no better at running the game properly than they were 30 years ago.
    Except now they're being paid a huge amount more money.
    Fans deserve better than this ongoing circus clown routine.
     
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    Bad night for the Wet Spammers who are campaigning for Moyes' sacking, as they win 4-2 and are equal on points with Brighton, who are considered to be having a good season. They'll have to keep their Moyes Out banners for another day, poor souls.
     
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    Sorry but that’s a bit like blaming the Government for everything that’s wrong in society.

    The cause of the issue is the greedy, cheating, lying clubs and their highly paid, clever, biased lawyers.

    If you think the football authorities can’t or don’t deal with that very well then fine.

    But the problem lies with the clubs, some of whom just seem unable to stick to the rules.
     
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    Don't lawyers need to be biased? Otherwise they wouldn't be highly paid. That's our adversarial system.
     
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  6. lardiman

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    The clue lies in the word 'authority'.

    The football authorities are in charge.
    They have the power.
    In the same way that the Government is in charge of the Country.
    They have the power.

    In both cases, events are sometimes out of their control.
    But how they respond to events, and the consequences for the people - that is 100% their responsibility.

    I know who is responsible for the state this Country is currently in.
    It's not Putin's fault, or Islamists, or the EU Commission, or the Blob.
    And when it comes to football, it isn't the Clubs who are ruining the game.
    It's the Premier League.
     
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    For my money it's the so-called champions league that's ruined the structure of the game.
     
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  8. ElfsborgAddick

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    A glorified UEFA Cup.
     
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  9. lardiman

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    The group stage <doh>
    A mediocre idea originally used in World Cup Finals I think, to try to prevent all the crap teams going home after one game.
    That notion truly jumped the shark when FIFA had a second group stage (3 teams per group) in one Finals.
    There was mass boredom, and of course corruption.

    Now we have group stages everywhere.
    The poorly named Champions' League. The UEFA Cup. The UEFA Conference. Even the Checkatrade Trophy.
    Utter garbage that nobody is interested in.

    UEFA should either revert to the old European Cup format - straight knock-out like the FA Cup, or set up their own European Super League.
    But of course they don't care about improving football. They just want to make money.

    To be fair there have been a few good ideas over the decades;
    • 3 points for a win
    • Penalty shoot-outs (better than multiple re-plays then a coin toss, believe it or not)
    • Play-offs
    • Goalkeeper can't pick up a back pass
    That's about all I can think of though.
    Wasn't the first idea Jimmy Hill's?
     
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    Marc Leonard managed the full 90+ minutes last night for Northampton despite the kicking we gave him on Saturday.
     
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    So he lived long and prospered :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  12. ElfsborgAddick

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    Unlike Aneke and Camara<whistle>
     
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    Donkeys live a long time. (Animal Farm)
     
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    Neil Warnock seems to have reached the end of the road, having failed to win a single league game at Aberdeen. The old firefighter at least went ahrt on a winning note, unfortunately, but has a unique place in football history.
     
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    Didn’t people want him as our manager instead of Sir Nathan ? :emoticon-0145-shake
     
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  16. ElfsborgAddick

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    I was one of them.
     
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  17. lardiman

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    Looks like the Premier League Clubs are going to ditch their own FFP rules.

    So I guess Man City are off the hook then.
     
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    What's your source for saying that, Lardy?
     
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    They were talking about it on SSN last night.

    The Sustainability rules (which the Prem Clubs voted in themselves a few years back) have upset the Clubs because of what has happened to Everton and might happen to Nottingham Forest.
    Also the Clubs are upset that there was a big downturn in player sales during January this year.
    Clubs were not spending because they feared falling foul of the sustainability rules.

    In a nutshell, the billionaires and foreign governments who own the biggest Clubs want the freedom to spend as much as they like.
    And the smaller Clubs dream of being bought by a billionaire or a foreign government, so they can do the same.
    It seems the Premier League board and executive has no real power.
    All the power - including the power to change the rules to suit themselves - lies with the Clubs (and who owns them).
    If 14 of the Clubs agree to change their own rules they can do so.
    Also, the Premier League Clubs have decided to block a new support package for the EFL Clubs until the Prem rules are changed.

    It is pure greed.
    The UK Government has said it will impose a regulator and impose an FFP regime if the Prem Clubs cannot create a viable one thmselves.
    The Prem Clubs have effectively told the Government to f**k off.
    And they will get their way.
    Because our Government will always be too weak, and the Premier League is now controlled by the UAE and Saudi Arabia.

    And the most sickening aspect of all, is that fans of Manchester City and Chelsea and Newcastle United seem to be all in favour of ditching any constraint of how much money they can spend. They seem to want their Clubs to offer players £1m per week contracts (or even more) - and damn the consequences for the rest of English football.

    The EFL Clubs should meet and agree to cut off the Premier League.
    End promotion and relegation.
    But of course they will never do that. Because their best Clubs dream of getting their snouts in the Prem trough, and becoming the plaything of a foreign regime with unlimited resources.

    The lust for money is indeed the root of all evil.

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    In the longer term, like all Charlton fans, I would love to see our Club competing in the Championship again.
    And in the fullness of time even winning that league.
    Winning it - not buying it.

    But I have no great desire anymore to see CAFC promoted to the Premier League.
    Not if it is going to become what the fans and owners of Manchester City and the other elite Clubs want it to become.
    Their greed is gradually destroying so much of what is good about English football. I want no part of that.
     
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    Charlie’s thoughts on the finances within football. Interesting read, but there’s a lot more to it than can be included in an online article……

    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/spor...crystal-palace-and-west-ham-over-efl-funding/

    However, accusing Palace and West Ham of ‘narrow self interest’ made me laugh.

    Isn’t that exactly what Charlie and others are doing ? Trying to look after their own self interests ? Nothing wrong with that, but please cut the hypocrisy.
     
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