Off Topic Floods

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Plans to upgrade flood defences at Hull’s Victoria Pier have been given the go-ahead.

The Victoria Pier Frontages flood defence plans include higher flood walls constructed along a section of the Humber frontage.

The new walls will also feature glazed sections to allow views of the Humber Estuary and a raised promenade allowing views over the wall.

New steel sheet piles will be installed about 3m in front of the existing piles.

The plans have now been approved by Hull City Council’s planning following referral to the Secretary of State for Local Government, Robert Jenrick.

It is part of a £42m Humber: Hull Frontage flood defence scheme, led by the Environment Agency along with Natural England, which will improve tidal flood defences at eight locations along the Humber estuary foreshore.

The works will reduce the risk of flooding from the Humber Estuary to 113,000 properties and are due to be completed by December 2020.

That's a project to stop sea water coming in, the problem at the moment is getting rain water out.

A number of posters have commented on leaves blocking the drains causing flooding, and yet on the other hand the tree huggers want to plant more trees which shed leaves claiming they can hold the rain water.
 
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The Avenues are lined with lovely big trees. Trees are great when there's been a lot of rain, because they drink a huge amount of water.

But then in the autumn, they shed their leaves and the leaves fill the gullies and the drains.

Not daft them trees you know, by blocking the drains they are stopping their drinking water from running away.
 
That's a project to stop sea water coming in, the problem at the moment is getting rain water out.

A number of posters have commented on leaves blocking the drains causing flooding, and yet on the other hand the tree huggers want to plant more trees which shed leaves claiming they can hold the rain water.
The idea is to plant trees way upstream, ie in the countryside where there are no drains for falling leaves to block, that way less water gets downstream into urban areas. Forested land can hold huge volumes of water.
 
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That's a project to stop sea water coming in, the problem at the moment is getting rain water out.

A number of posters have commented on leaves blocking the drains causing flooding, and yet on the other hand the tree huggers want to plant more trees which shed leaves claiming they can hold the rain water.
The Coulthard Report looked at the causes of the 2007 floods in Hull. It concluded that blocked gullies had minimal effect, the main cause was the failure of Yorkshire Water's pumps.


The views expressed in my posts are not necessarily mine.
 
The idea is to plant trees way upstream, ie in the countryside where there are no drains for falling leaves to block, that way less water gets downstream into urban areas. Forested land can hold huge volumes of water.

Sorry, I still prefer balkan tigers explanation.
 
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The Coulthard Report looked at the causes of the 2007 floods in Hull. It concluded that blocked gullies had minimal effect, the main cause was the failure of Yorkshire Water's pumps.


The views expressed in my posts are not necessarily mine.

Bloody technology.
 
Is that because you think Balkan is right or is it because that opinion is a bit easier to digest?

If you're genuinely interested have a read of this. It's just one of a multitude of sources saying the same thing, that trees and forests have a key role in water management.

https://extension.psu.edu/the-role-of-trees-and-forests-in-healthy-watersheds[/QUOT

I will give that a read. The Coulthard report first. I mentioned in an earlier post the once in a lifetime event, that is given a rating of 1/150. But then the report quantifies it's opinion by stating there is only 30 years of data to base their findings on.
 
Except the Dutch have spent years finding ways to solve the problems and control the water. If not half of the country would be under water.
Yes but their biggest problem, mainly, has been stopping water getting in from the sea, hence the seawalls, etc. I don't know what their policies towards rainwater management are.
 
Yes but their biggest problem, mainly, has been stopping water getting in from the sea, hence the seawalls, etc. I don't know what their policies towards rainwater management are.
The dykes (awaits "witty" response from Mr Hatem) are there to manage that.
 
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The dykes (awaits "witty" response from Mr Hatem) are there to manage that.
I think they have acknowledged that they don't want to keep on building higher and higher dykes. Just read something about them learning to live with water, eg building more water-based leisure facilities which double as reservoirs when needed, underground carparks which do the same (I suppose they tell folk to get their cars out first..)
I'm no authority though. The only claim I'm making is that forestry has a major role to play in flood management.
 
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The new Lagoon's have being a great help....getting rid/infilling of some of the lager ditches and dykes over the last 60 odd years by the council and houseing developers hasn't or building on what few green field sites that are left.
My old stomping ground as a nipper Setting Dyke as being flooded for the last month....the proposed site for the veterans village.

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