Fifa's Castle Starting To Crumble?

I think FIFA pay her wages, the earrings were a bonus for chewing him off without chucking up.

 

In case you're a fan and want to hear his "true story"

http://m.imdb.com/title/tt2814362/



Btw my opinion of Tim Roth has seriously taken a dip.

 

Threatening to gets the attention that distances then from the corruption stuff, they then don't need to actually pull out

 

True, but marketeers run like ****e from anything that could potentially tarnish their brand by association, these aren't hollow threats imo.

 

Love the sarcasm in the blurb aswell "The true story of the three honest and deeply ethical men who made the World Cup"
Even the movie's own blurb is trolling it...I am assuming it is sarcastic because if it isnt

 

It won't tarnish and therefore they won't run until it is proven to be corrupt. At which point, there won't be anything to sponsor as Fifa will buckle.

 

I thought the same. Then saw FIFA put in £16m of the £24m budget, so they must be serious!

 

I wonder, IF UEFA were to pull out of the World cup and in turn Fifa, it'd be interesting to see how it effects Russia. Obviously they'd want to stay being host ans supporting Blatter. Would that mean Russia would have to leave UEFA, join the Asian Federation and Russian clubs be barred from the CL and EL?
There'd be a fire sale of all the good players in Russia and I'd guess most of the Russian players would also want to leave. It'd be interesting to see what would happen if pushed.

 

Or Russia could remain as they are and just host the 'rest of the world' World Cup with Russia as special guests. Bit like Spain competing in something non-European the other year

 

Congratulations to Sepp Blatter on being re-elected as FIFA President.
After awarding the World Cup to Qatar, Sepp Blatter was asked who was the most famous Qatar player?
He replied...... "Eric Clapton"

 

Not gonna happen. UEFA will not pull out of the world cup, FIFA will not retract the awards of the two WCs to Russia and Qatar.

Any thinking along those lines is fantasy. You think Blatter hasn't got dirt on platini? UEFA are just as rotten but they have to act all "disgusted".

I'm loving all the piety coming out of proper corrupt institutions and organisations over this like, it's comedy gold

 

I agree when Visa, and McDonalds are taking the high ground you know you are in deep s**t.

It's the same as bankers expressing their disgust at benefit cheats, just different sides of the same coin.

 

Exactly, except FIFA don't as far as I know knowingly launder drug cartel money but the banks have and do so their disgust is just them being ironic

 

You have an "all or nothing" attitude to everything... it's eutopian and unrealistic. Politics is never black and white. It's about tackling the greater need as well as personal interests. Dont give up, UEFA may very well pull out if certain deals are done, certain eyes look the other way to some of their misdemeanors, while also providing incentives to give them something in return also.

You may not like this approach Sisu but you cant expect everything to be sorted in one go. You're always so single minded about these issues (to be commended but also sometimes defeatist). Politics is about looking at your immediate aims and playing a game of give and take to achieve those. Then afterwards dealing with the next part of the jigsaw one step at a time.

The U.S. will choose its battles over this one. If anything the US Justice Dept SHOULD put pressure on UEFA to help them with the carrot and stick (including immunity and blatantly "looking the other way" at some of their actions if need be).

 

Sorry mate I deal in facts not "utopian" no "e" ideals. "Politics is never black and white" < some weird false argument I certainly never made as I don't even know what that means? "politics is never black and white"? Huh?

I may not like what approach? You have merely had a wild stab at speculation based on what you read in the media.

I am making an educated guess given first of all the financial committments countries have made to these world cups and UEFA actually may not legally be able to pull out at all. That is one of many reasons. Remember many of the stars in UEFA's Champions League come from outside of UEFA, a rift between European and the rest of world football would and could cause big problems for the club game. There are many implications of UEFA doing that and most if not all will actually be destructive to European football and UEFA.

Plus players fans and everyone else will be pressuring UEFA NOT to pull out of the WC if it was mulling it over, never mind the corporate leverage as a lot of money gets pumped in.

So, "utopian" you call it, which makes no sense, how about reality?

 

Where do I start you keep changing your arguments. Ok here goes...

In the post I quoted you said "not gonna happen, UEFA will not pull out of the WC". You then went on to give reasons that implied that Platini and UEFA are just as corrupt...and even that Blatter may have dirt on UEFA (a lot of this isnt fact btw as you just claimed, just your opinion but for the sake of argument lets go with it).

All of that implies that somehow you are seeking a utopia where the situation can only be resolved if UEFA and FIFA are cleaned up. That somehow you cant fix the problem or that it's even possible (or even that it would be unacceptable) bcos of that. In that sense it is a very "black and white" approach.

My response is that deals can be done. Yeh it may not be the perfect outcome, certain irregularities at UEFA will ne allowed to be ignored... but pressure can be put on UEFA (not just to pull out of tournaments) but also to turn on FIFA by helping the authorities in this investigation.

 

Deals being done is the reason everything and everyone in positions of power are corrupt!!

What's the difference between FIFA making a deal with Qatar and UEFA making a deal with the US. You'd just be fighting corruption with...

more corruption, which is stupid.

 

All politics is corrupt. To think otherwise is naive. You have to decide what your priority is right now. The pressure is on FIFA so what are you going to do, allow the status quo to continue just bcos you lose the support of UEFA? Or do you deal with the lesser of two evils to make some sort of progress and then deal with UEFA after?

Right now getting Blatter out and FIFA cleaned up as much as possible has to be the priority so that at least decisions on venues, funding, tournaments are done on merit. That's my priority anyway as an England fan. I may disagree on a few things with UEFA and Platini but right now they pale into comparison compared to the corruption rife in FIFA.

 

Taking a massive guess I'd say they've never been done on merit. How do you think US won the world cup in 1994?

I think the only reason the English & Americans are sour about this is because they aren't calling the shots any more.

 

The FIFA heirarchy...but Blatter knew nothing about it

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