FFP//Is Harry correct.

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Exactly. <ok>

Lets assume a lesser team has the next Messi and Ronaldo.

IF they could keep them of course they would raise the profile of their club world wide.
BUT that is one hell of an IF, as one of the top teams would come in and steal them away offering wages the parent club could never match.
Those players move on and the parent club drops back to obscurity.

That is FP in a nutshell.

Indeed you only need to look at us last year, finished 8th but hit a glass ceiling as ffp wouldn't allow us to take the next step. Que the big clubs coming in and ripping us apart.

I mean what hope is there for a Leicester say of coming up and having a go? 'yeaaaahhhh we just got promoted to the least competitive competition in the world, cannon fodder until inevitable relegation at some point down the line' <diva> <doh>

This is why I had a big argument last year with fellow Saints fans about prioritising the Cup over league position, and I still stand by I would rather win the FA Cup n go down (ala Wigan) than finish 8th, I mean what's the point of being in the Prem unless you're one of the top clubs.

The sooner there is a European Super League the better for English football as a whole <ok>[/QUOTE]

Wigan who? To be honest mate, haven't read the whole thread, but the winning the cup and going down line stuck out. This season they'll be visiting (and no disrespect to them), Bournemouth, Rotherham and Brentford, not Chelsea, Man C, etc. Look how many former PL teams are stuck in the Championship. Most of them will never see the PL again. I'm sure most fans would want to see the SOL almost full every week. It won't be in the Championship.
 
It doesn't mate, it just stops that respective club being allowed to play in Europe. If there's any domestic punishment it's a fine, if the owner is rich enough then they'll pay the fine.

The fine part of it, I don't agree with, if a company is struggling then the last thing they need is a fine, that's where I think FFP was created to line the pockets of all the wrong people, who will syphon the money one way or another.

If for example with the new influx of money, you end up with a better turnover than the likes of Napoli, Benfica, Porto then how can you blame anybody other than yourselves if you're under achieving?

We didn't need FFP to come in and save our bacon, we've batted away Abramovic and the Sheiks enough times to prove we didn't need intervention from anybody.

From a football point of view and especially an English football point of view, FFP will stand every club in good stead providing clubs play by the rules. The rules state you can't make consecutive losses over a 4 year period or something so it doesn't stop you splashing out once in a while. The top players will end up in this league, more than ever.


We will just keep going round in circles bonny lad. :p
We will just have to agree to disagree.

I would just mention this though, pretty much backs up my thoughts.
That the big clubs don't want some rich guy buying a club and piling money in, because you don't want to allow any other clubs into your clique by NEW money, versus your OLD money.

We are of course all for FFP because we have put the graft in, naturally who wants to do hard work then see some other tiny club like Anzhi start to price you out of the market for players?
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Yep disgraceful some rich guy wants to spend his money any way he wants.
 
We will just keep going round in circles bonny lad. :p
We will just have to agree to disagree.

I would just mention this though, pretty much backs up my thoughts.
That the big clubs don't want some rich guy buying a club and piling money in, because you don't want to allow any other clubs into your clique by NEW money, versus your OLD money.



Yep disgraceful some rich guy wants to spend his money any way he wants.

I'm sure you'd think differently mate if the tables were turned, but I agree, we aren't going to be able to persuade each other that we are both right!

Best part of footy forums for me!

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