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FFP - City get off, is it now a dead duck?

Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by Tobes, Jul 13, 2020.

  1. Libby

    Libby 9-0

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    When talking about competitiveness it's worth pointing out that if you take away teams who bought their success through owner funds there'd only have been 3 different winners of the PL since its inception.
     
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  2. Peej

    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    Imagine the interest in that product if it were only United, Arsenal winning multiple titles.

    At least we have seen City, Chesea and one time winners Blackburn, Leicester and Liverpool join the list.
     
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  3. NLDISRED

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    IMO English clubs wouldn't join the super league, the premier league is to lucrative as it is we have no reason to want to join a super league, clubs like bayern, Juve, Ajax and PSG have good reason to want to join as they will get a massive boost in TV money. I think If there was a super league the premier league would rival it
     
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  4. gooner4ever

    gooner4ever once a Gooner always a Gooner
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    Perhaps we should have a super league for all the clubs owned by OPEC member states or other oil rich states; Russian mafia oligarchs; clubs whose debts paid off by royal family; countries with poor human rights records, and any club wishing to break FFP so they can then pump as much money in to their “projects”. PSG; Real Madrid; City and Chelsea from PL would be no loss to PL.

    Liverpool and United have a different financial framework and spend according to their own income and get players based on this and their history/stature and manager.
    But to make it fairer for everyone in the PL there needs to be a spending cap for wages - which the USA has for all its major sports and works well with no one club having a monopoly for success.
     
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  5. astro

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    Yes owners who want to invest need to do so for the full value of signings i.e. wages and bonuses not just transfer fee. FFP focusses on things like losses and wage bills but needs to be more broad to be effective. Like an owner can put in as much money was they want but not increase the total financial commitment on the club.

    You can see the effect already at Everton where they have an ignorant billionaire wasting hundreds of millions on failed managers and players. Meanwhile the wage bill has exploded to a disgusting 85% of revenue. And that doesn't include the £14m/year they're now giving to Carlo.
     
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  6. Libby

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    ^^Taken it well I see.
     
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  7. Tobes

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    That entire post is both contradictory and financially illiterate.
     
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    gooner4ever once a Gooner always a Gooner
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    wouldn’t you rather have Saints play in a league where they had a chance like Leicester of winning it, or in a league with the likes of City who broke all the FFP rules, didn’t cooperate with an investigation, and get away with spending as much as they like.

    City haven’t been found innocent - CAS have found that Uefa failed to provide clear evidence and the evidence they did provide was out of date scope for period of investigation ie they found that they had cheated, but in the period they were supposed to be looking at they couldn’t prove it as the emails were leaked to them and City obvs didn’t help them find the proof as they knew that without it there was no evidence
     
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  9. Tobes

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    Did City have a year out the season Lesta won the PL then?
     
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  10. I see Spurs being bought by the Saudis, what with our Jewish connection, and becoming the New Uber club. I’m envisioning a hot rodded high octane mix of last season’s City and this season’s ‘Pool, with a dollop of early 70s’ Leeds thrown in for our games against the Chavs.
     
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  11. Libby

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    Yeah Saints always competed for the title before Sheikh Mansour turned up like.


    And I'd rather play in the Championship personally.
     
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  12. Welshie

    Welshie Chavcunt fanboy dickhead

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    Some posts have been mysteriously deleted here.
     
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  13. astro

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  14. Tobes

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    Nothing mysterious about it, and it was one not plural. The end.
     
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    you'll need to find another buyer pal Saudis are all in on the toon
     
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  16. Treble

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    If that happens it'll be the death knell for match going fans at the top of the sport, and the era of internet streamers will be well and truly cemented. Astro will be happy.
     
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    I think we've seen that football is significantly improved without stadium fans. Now we just need to get rid of the referees.
     
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    Treble Keyser Söze

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    Thinking is your achilles heel mate. Try to avoid it.
     
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    Do you often find yourself envisioning a hot rodding?
     
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