All of the big clubs can **** off to a super league of some sort in my view. Take var and the huge sums of cash with them and the rest of us can have our game back. Any club who chooses to go should also not be allowed to compete in our domestic cups either imo.
Is right. The entire premise needs to be reappraised on a global basis. Most of the FFP regulations here, are domestic, and still don’t stop clubs going to the wall, as shown by the complete disgrace at Wigan last week.
In fairness to the football authorities, we live in a World where you can put the put the property etc of a business into an offshore holding company, operate a limited company from the rented premises, run it into the ground through abject mismanagement, running up huge debts to creditors. Go bust, and set up again the next day from the same premises with your Mrs as the director and start again, with the original suppliers getting a couple of pence in the pound, if they’re lucky. So there’s only so much they can realistically do, football doesn’t exist in a bubble, as much as it’d like to try and ensure.
NOOO!!!!!!!!! Can't say I speak for all 'Pool fans (even in my family), but no, I wouldn't. I'd even bin the Premiership and go back to the old league structure if I had my way, never mind a Super League. They can combine the CL and the Europy into a league if they want that, but not at the expense of the domestic league. But I am a dinosaur.
The clubs with very rich owners will do that. Some clubs already have extremely lucrative deals, and that's what 'start-ups' like City and, previously, Chelsea were trying to catch up. But I've always said that when someone like Real, who have been sponsored to the hilt by their government for decades, are whining about malpractice, then it's all bollocks. John Barnes today is calling for a US style wage cap - good luck with that, because City are using the exact process of sponsorship deals and image rights to get around the current restrictions, so that won't happen.
FFP has been bullshit from the off. Clubs find ways to circumvent the rules as City have done consistently and then even when they are found to have breached the rules, they can find loopholes in the rules/law to render it defunct anyway. As Tobes says, if City had lost this appeal, then they could have challenged it in the civil courts for unfair business practice, as essentially they haven't done anything 'wrong' financially, even if their massive revenue streams put them at a competitive advantage. I'd rather see a wage and transfer cap introduced to level up the playing field, but it's impractical unless it's implemented globally.
Yeah I know mate, it just baffles me that there's people still out there who still believe that it's the intentions of FFP.
Tbf now you've got the league monkey off your back I'd expect Klopp to take them a bit more seriously.
The European super league will happen imo, too much money potential for it not to. Domestic leagues would still carry on but just without the big clubs.
I actually think there would be a huge backlash from fan bases if that ever did happen ... money talks of course ... but there is also the risk of killing the cash cow.
I don’t agree. It’s never been more than an idol threat by the CL clubs. Domestic rivalries and competition is the bed rock of our football pyramid. The elite clubs choosing to leave that behind for a closed shop, full time European super league would be an epic error, hence the reason it’s never got beyond the posturing stage.
I can see why the likes of Bayern and Barca might be interested but it makes no sense for the big clubs here. Sure they know that their STH's would never have it either.
Depends really. Do Man United (for example) care more about the 50k hardcore fans who turn up every week or the millions they have globally who would love to watch them play Barca/Real every week rather than the likes of Leicester/Saints etc. If a realistic proposal is put forward and the tv companies start putting huge bids down for the rights then I can see it happening.
After 30 years of trying. Football hasn't been competitive for the vast majority of clubs since it was coded, thats why there are league systems Thats why I said its 'just about competitive' Realistically you can claim there are about 5 or 6 clubs that could win the EPL (although it was probably only 2 this year) and maybe the same for the CL (although there is greater chance of upset with it being a cup) but a wider spread cause its clubs across Europe. What I'm saying is, at the moment there is just about enough spread of wealth across Europe to ensure that the really mega rich clubs can't just win everything every year. Imagine if City and PSG were allowed to spend like they wanted. You'd end up with the situation in Scotland but with the CL included. Something is needed to stop billionaires buying success at the expense of competition.
Fully agree. A super league would be fun for a season or so, but the classic leagues/competitions would survive and thrive. You woudl see attendances for the SL drop, the interest fall away. Would be come a TV spectacle.
And clubs like yours want to ensure that this remains the case, via FFP keeping everyone else ‘in their lane’ and just forming part of the chasing pack with little or no realistic chance of catching up, due to the massive difference in their turnover compared to the established ‘big clubs’. If a club owner wants to try and redress that imbalance by investing his own cash in order to try and upset the established applecart then imo they should be entitled to do so. Before the Abramovich years people cried about the League being between Arsenal and United neither of whom were benefactor funded, then they cried about Chelsea ending that, then they cried about City coming from nowhere and ending that. The idea that clubs should be barred from being able to try and compete on a level financial footing with others, merely because they’re not yet self sustaining, is fundamentally unfair and completely anti competitive.
