Ferrari: Team Thread
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I feel like I might have been whooshed here(?), but I think both cars are turning left.
Lewis quote :-
"So I am adjusting myself now to the car. It drives so much different with all the controls we have. You have to use them a lot different to what I had in the past.
"Just one example is I never used engine braking before. Here you use a lot of engine braking to turn the car. They are much different brakes to what I had in the past. In the last stint I had to use the rears to turn the car, and other times you have to put all the weight on the front.
"Qualifying is not good enough but if I get the car where it was in that middle stint, and start delivering qualifying, fix that, I will have better weekends."
Interesting comments from Lewis, an insight into to what he is adapting too. Be interesting to see how successfully he does adapt. He is at least seeming to comprehend what he needs to achieve.
"So I am adjusting myself now to the car. It drives so much different with all the controls we have. You have to use them a lot different to what I had in the past.
"Just one example is I never used engine braking before. Here you use a lot of engine braking to turn the car. They are much different brakes to what I had in the past. In the last stint I had to use the rears to turn the car, and other times you have to put all the weight on the front.
"Qualifying is not good enough but if I get the car where it was in that middle stint, and start delivering qualifying, fix that, I will have better weekends."
Interesting comments from Lewis, an insight into to what he is adapting too. Be interesting to see how successfully he does adapt. He is at least seeming to comprehend what he needs to achieve.
OK so I am probably very slow to find this and it's very old news.
So I just watched a youtube vid that appears to explain why Ferrari had so much speed in 2019 and subsequently agreed a deal with FIA to explain how and escape punishment.
Basically the single fuel flow meter measured flow at set intervals. Ferrari boosted the max fuel flow at the moments the meter wasn't reading! So they averaged more fuel allowing higher speeds and better acceleration!
Link to youtube short: https://youtube.com/shorts/dd5vWjstjXQ?si=c9Dzg4MrTnGNPf7D
Anyone have any other info on 'cheating', I use quotes as I do love engineers reading the rules as written and finding gaps to exploit.
So I just watched a youtube vid that appears to explain why Ferrari had so much speed in 2019 and subsequently agreed a deal with FIA to explain how and escape punishment.
Basically the single fuel flow meter measured flow at set intervals. Ferrari boosted the max fuel flow at the moments the meter wasn't reading! So they averaged more fuel allowing higher speeds and better acceleration!
Link to youtube short: https://youtube.com/shorts/dd5vWjstjXQ?si=c9Dzg4MrTnGNPf7D
Anyone have any other info on 'cheating', I use quotes as I do love engineers reading the rules as written and finding gaps to exploit.
From the bbc
Leclerc agrees to new long-term deal with Ferrari
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Leclerc has had a strong link with Ferrari for many years
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The deal for the 28-year-old comes in the build-up to his home Grand Prix in Monaco this weekend.
Leclerc signed his last deal in 2024 and Ferrari say this renewal will keep him with the team for the "coming seasons".
The Monegasque has competed in 155 races for the Italian outfit since joining in 2019, winning eight times, and he is currently third in the drivers' championship.
He has a superb record in Monaco. In the past six years, he has qualified on pole three times, been second on the grid twice and third once.
"I couldn't be happier to continue this journey with Scuderia Ferrari HP," he said.
"It has always been so much more than just a team to me. It's the team I've loved and dreamt of being part of since I was a child, and after all these years it has become a second family.
"Together we've shared incredible moments and some tougher ones, but I believe in this team more than ever, and I'm deeply grateful that we will keep pushing side by side toward our shared goal of bringing the World Championship back to Maranello.
"Being a Ferrari driver is a dream, but it's also a responsibility I never take for granted.
"I'll continue to give absolutely everything I have to bring this team back to where it belongs, at the very top, for everyone in Maranello, and above all for the tifosi, whose passion is the heartbeat of this Scuderia."
Leclerc joined the Ferrari Driver Academy in 2016 and after winning the Formula 2 title in 2017, made his Formula 1 debut the following year with Sauber.
He is the team's second-most capped Formula 1 driver and also ranks second for pole positions (27), behind only Michael Schumacher.
The new deal should see him pass Schumacher's 179 starts for Ferrari although the beating the German's 58 pole positions will be a bigger ask.
Team principal Fred Vasseur added: "Charles has been part of the Ferrari family for many years now and this renewal feels like something very natural for us.
"Over these seasons we have seen him grow, to become not only one of the strongest drivers in Formula 1, but also a person who is completely at one with the team and everything Ferrari represents.
"We appreciate his talent, we love his determination and the way he approaches every day with the people in the Scuderia, both on and off the track. We know how much this project means to him and we are happy to continue working towards our shared goals."
I'm not Ferrari's biggest fan but I do respect their history etc.
That said I think they are getting a bum deal at the moment.
First off they designed their PU to cope with starts, so they had an advantage against all the none Ferrari powered teams. Then other teams complain slow starts are a safety issue. FIA intervene and add 5 sec warm up for starts!
As of 2027 the little wing on the gearbox will be banned - Ferrari designed the whole back end to optomise this. So they will have to spend big to the back end to a completely new spec in line with other teams.
It looks likely they will be granted the ICE ADUO upgrade of 4% so Up to $4.65 million allowance (2 in-season upgrades + 2 the following season). And the kicker for next season - FIA want to change the PU to 60:40 split on ICE vs Elec power. If that gets the go ahead then it nullifies the 2 upgrades that Ferrari get this season and next!
As I say I'm not Ferrari's biggest fan but that lot of changes all seem to be against them and their, certainly on the chassis side, great design and understanding of the rules. OK so Merc and maybe Red Bull have their hot compression hit but that's just 1 thing - we will see a little at this weekends race maybe?
Does anyone know how the ADUO works with ref to PUs that have already been used this season? Are they allowed to upgrade the used PU or just new ones?
That said I think they are getting a bum deal at the moment.
First off they designed their PU to cope with starts, so they had an advantage against all the none Ferrari powered teams. Then other teams complain slow starts are a safety issue. FIA intervene and add 5 sec warm up for starts!
As of 2027 the little wing on the gearbox will be banned - Ferrari designed the whole back end to optomise this. So they will have to spend big to the back end to a completely new spec in line with other teams.
It looks likely they will be granted the ICE ADUO upgrade of 4% so Up to $4.65 million allowance (2 in-season upgrades + 2 the following season). And the kicker for next season - FIA want to change the PU to 60:40 split on ICE vs Elec power. If that gets the go ahead then it nullifies the 2 upgrades that Ferrari get this season and next!
As I say I'm not Ferrari's biggest fan but that lot of changes all seem to be against them and their, certainly on the chassis side, great design and understanding of the rules. OK so Merc and maybe Red Bull have their hot compression hit but that's just 1 thing - we will see a little at this weekends race maybe?
Does anyone know how the ADUO works with ref to PUs that have already been used this season? Are they allowed to upgrade the used PU or just new ones?
It’s interesting timing, given I think his existing contract ran for a few more years. Presumably they’ve removed some of the near term break clauses, which protects them from anyone looking for a number 1 driver in the next few years. A lot of Charles comments sound like “being a Ferrari driver is brilliant, I love being here and worst case, I’m going to become Ferrari’s longest serving driver and be involved with the brand for life.” Given there’s no obvious route to a better chance of more success, you can see how the deal makes sense for both sides.
The engine thing, I think is a gamble they took. They knew it was a safety issue, raised it and then decided to design around it, when changes weren’t made to the regs. They should also have known that there was a big chance that if others didn’t follow that route the safety aspect and the nature of it meant it was very likely the FIA would step in (as happened in a much more extreme way in 2022).
Similarly the FIA have been pretty clear that they intend to clamp down more in this reg cycle on stuff that goes against the intent of the rules (lesson learned from the loss of race-ability over the GE era). I think this won’t just affect Ferrari, the RedBull floor is likely to face the same treatment.
Who knows how ADUO will work, it all seems very murky? I’m not impressed by the PU manufacturers holding the sport to ransom over the 60:40 thing, surely an engine redesign is an engine redesign - means everyone gets a fair chance to win/lose from it and then we go into equivalency adjustments again from there?
Even worse Cadillac seem to have a vote (giving Ferrari 2) despite not actually being committed to an engine yet or really impacted by this change - surprisingly this seems to be the only thing about the PU rules Fred doesn’t think is unfair!