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Ferrari F14T

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by EternalMSC, Jan 25, 2014.

  1. 51LV3R8RR04

    51LV3R8RR04 Well-Known Member

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    Just banter Manny, I overrate Mercedes on purpose and make a slight elbow to Forza's ribs, he returns the ball and the game continues.
     
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  2. EternalMSC

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    Ted Kravitz saying the paddock rumour is the Ferrari is 18kg overweight!!!

    Thank goodness for that lightweight engine otherwise it would barely move..........
     
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  4. 51LV3R8RR04

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    How weird the stories of them trying to block weight increases and Alonso and Felipe with driver weight now...

    Plus I'm still interested in how Rory Bryne is going to make this work with all they hype the tifosi gave him to turn things around with Allison. I bet Alonso leaves this year as something is clearly very wrong at Ferrari and it aint got nothing to do with the aero tunnel or simulator in which they try to make out as some quick fix. New aero tunnel, more designers, new engine you would of thought something could come out of it but if anything it looks like they have gone backwards rather than forward.

    And no, I'm not joking.
     
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  5. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    I think Ferrari are in trouble. Both Mercedes and Ferrari were happy with their engines going in, with Renault distinctly unhappy. Renault know what's wrong with theirs and will improve it dramatically when they're allowed too, mercedes don't really need to but will make minor adjustments and improvements, but where do Ferrari go? If they are happy with the engine then they don't think anything is intrinsically wrong with it, so they're quite probably going to be the most underpowered by midseason, and the car doesn't look that great.
     
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  6. BrightLampShade

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    Ferrari engine finally seen :)FERRARI ENGINE
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    For a team steeped in F1 tradition and proud of its engines, Ferrari has remained secretive about its 2014 power unit. No images of the engine have been revealed and technical personnel have been kept away from the track and the media.
    The exact format of the engines was exposed when the unit was being removed from Kimi Raikkonen's car in free practice.
    Ferrari has the turbo at the back of the engine like Renault, but like Mercedes it has split the exhaust driven turbine from the compressor.
    The separation is far smaller than the Mercedes arrangement, with just enough space to mount the MGU-H in between the two components.
    With this set-up, Ferrari can mount the turbo much lower, as they do not need to fit these parts within the 'V' of the engine. This means the turbo can be much lower within the gearbox for better aerodynamics and a lower centre of gravity.
    Now the turbo needs to cool the charge air and route it to the front of the inlet plenums. This was unclear until Thursday, but Ferrari fits the water intercooler in between the inlet plenums, within the 'V' of the engine.
    Then the intercooler has a U-bend to duct the cooler charge air to the inlets. Separate water pipes then take the heated to water to a smaller radiator in the sidepods.
    This keeps the hardware out of the sidepods and fuel tank area for better aero, and the pipework short for less turbo lag. In this guise, the Ferrari engine architecture is at least as elegant as the Mercedes. But it does come at the cost of some extra weight for the water intercooler.
    It's unfortunate for Ferrari's two customers, Marussia and Sauber, that they also get this set-up as part of the complete Ferrari powertrain supply.
    They are less able to reduce weight from the rest of the car to accommodate the heavier engine installation.
     
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  7. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    I guess those bananas are the exotic material I was thinking off.
     
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    [video=youtube;yTTrXAE7OPU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTTrXAE7OPU[/video]
     
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    Ferrari's engine problems revealedIrreparable error in the Ferrari engine

    The engine design Ferrari made a number of irreparable error. The Italians run after the competition in terms of power and fuel consumption. It was not until 2015 that problems can be solved. We will tell you where the weak points are accurate.

    http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/...able-fehler-im-ferrari-triebwerk-8440355.html


    Fernando Alonso has also finished the eighth race of the year in the points. The gap to the top was just 18.5 seconds. As little as never before in this season when. Einrechnet with that there was no safety car Again, both were Ferrari to the finish. No package is as reliable as the Ferrari F14T.


    That's the positive view of the season of Ferrari. Fernando Alonso, it looks more critical: "It is impossible that we catch our technical gap to Mercedes this year yet The development stop at the engine does not allow.." Ferrari showed a rising curve shape in Austria, but had no chance against Mercedes and his customer team Williams.


    A look at the data showed, where Alonso einhandelte the residue. On the straights. With 307.3 km / h Ferrari was only ranked 15 in the top-speed table. The Williams were measured in the race with 321.4 km / h. The factory car from Mercedes with 318.3 km / h


    Ferrari car good engine with weaknesses
    Was in the past, the aerodynamics, the problem child of Ferrari, it's the engine today. Or better, the drive unit. The six-cylinder internal combustion engine itself is healthy. Its not peripheral. Ferrari are a few mistakes in the concept of its V6 turbo along with the two electric motors that are not correct to the end of the season. The error, turbine, MGU-H and compressor briefly to stagger one after the other, is also Renault aufgesessen.


    Mercedes separates the three components are mounted in the turbine and the compressor in both ends of the motor. With the MGU-H in the middle. This brings thermal advantages, space saving and a lower center of gravity. Ferrari but still paid for two more conceptual shortcomings.


    Small turbocharger means less power
    A serious error is too small turbocharger as Auto Motor und Sport revealed in its latest issue (14/2014). You sat on the fallacy that a small loader less cooling required, less strain on the engine and takes away less space, which is why you zurückbekäme the deficits on the engine two or three times on the aerodynamics. However, the disadvantages outweigh the drive side.


    Because of the small charger, the MGU-H produces less power. This is a killer, because the "hot electric machine" may not only put off energy in the battery, but leave the power directly into the other electric motor MGU-K. And that is unregulated in contrast to battery power (up to four megajoules per round). Quasi-power at zero cost. Whoever has a disadvantage waived hp.


    Ferrari exhaust manifold not heat insulated
    In the case of Ferrari, the power loss compared to Mercedes should be blatantly, because it was too sloppy in another point. The six exhaust manifold are not covered as Mercedes and Renault with all-round protection. The competition inside out through the exhaust pipes a second tube. This keeps more heat and therefore energy in the exhaust system. So even power again for the MGU-H. Since this area of ​​the exhaust homologation subject, Ferrari's hands are tied. As can be remedied only in 2015 werden.Zudem accumulates without the protection of more heat under the lining. The Ferrari costs in consequence also aerodynamic advantages. The panel in the rear had to therefore be airy and relatively wide open front. At the expense of output.


    At the Canadian Grand Prix, a flatter and further to the rear cowl line was tested. With success. It lets the rear wing and diffuser work better and brings significantly more downforce. She did not come in the race of Montreal but used because it was too hot and Ferrari cooling problems feared.


    At the Red Bull Ring we took the risk. Despite 27 degrees outside. The progress was evident in the curves. But in the race both drivers complained power loss. Without specifying where the came from. One can only speculate here. It is possible that Ferrari at least temporarily, with reduced power went, to avoid any risk of overheating.


    In our photo gallery we show you the Ferrari problems vividly in the detail images.


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    When Marussia a problem is to recognize at first glance - the manifolds are not insulated.


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    Without the insulation to the outside Ferrari had been let more air between the hood and engine.
     
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