Fellaini
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Sorry to butt in, but I've got to say this. Thought Fellaini showed signs of Torres in 2010 in his hapless performance on Saturday. The first year you bought him he was useless, but my b/s family and friends supported him to the hilt when we slagged him off. This is the way he pays you back.
Look, I'm not naive: the players hold the whip hand and when they, their agents or the Daily Mail wants a player to go you have to be realistic (and yes, it will happen to us one day over Suarez). Makes me spew that some players act like that though - the bloke can't move anywhere until the summer, so how does playing like a big girl's blouse help anyone?
Stinks.
Look, I'm not naive: the players hold the whip hand and when they, their agents or the Daily Mail wants a player to go you have to be realistic (and yes, it will happen to us one day over Suarez). Makes me spew that some players act like that though - the bloke can't move anywhere until the summer, so how does playing like a big girl's blouse help anyone?
Stinks.
It's you that's making the assertion that it's both possible to fund a players purchase beyond his contract length & that this scenario exists with Fellaini.
So why don't you (for once) put some substance behind that ****ing big gob of yours Phil, because until you do, you're the one talking out his hoop (as per) you ****ing gobshite.
Arsenal don't need Fellaini? He's exactly what they do need, in my opinion.
I'd take him at Spurs, too. Stick him in alongside Sandro, behind Lennon, Bale and Dembele. Scare the crap out of most sides.
I'd take him at Spurs, too. Stick him in alongside Sandro, behind Lennon, Bale and Dembele. Scare the crap out of most sides.
Hey, I didn't think that moving Bale into his current central attacking role was a good idea and I had reservations about pushing him forward from left-back before that.
I'm saying nothing!
Fellaini doesn't have the pace, creativity or long range shooting ability to play there though, unlike Bale who has at least two of those attributes. Hes a great player, just should be in centre midfield.
If you sign a player on a 3 year contract for 20 million. But the conditions of the payment is 5 million a year in monthly instalments which works out at like 400k ish a month. You then sell the player after 2 years. You still have half the transfer fee to pay despite selling him! It's happenned to me on football manager before, paying monthly instalments for a player that I didn't even have.
Football manager, great source
The answer to my question (seeing as Phil has **** all to come back with) is that post the Bosman ruling, players amortisation (write down of asset value) has to take place over the length of their contract, so that at the end of it, their 'book' value is £0. If you didn't follow this process, the player could walk on a Bosman & you could have an 'asset' on your books that didn't exist. Clubs therefore, write down & (in transfers of European players) ofter pay for, the player over the contract length the player originally signs.
If a player moves on mid contract you could in theory have a situation where you sold & profited on the player sale, but still had a liability to his former club, based on the original agreement when you bought him (as per your example). However, this is totally different to what the 'learned' Phil was suggesting was what happened with Fellaini, i.e. that we signed him on a 5 year contract, but agreed to pay for him over a term longer than 5 years.....
Football manager, great source
The answer to my question (seeing as Phil has **** all to come back with) is that post the Bosman ruling, players amortisation (write down of asset value) has to take place over the length of their contract, so that at the end of it, their 'book' value is £0. If you didn't follow this process, the player could walk on a Bosman & you could have an 'asset' on your books that didn't exist. Clubs therefore, write down & (in transfers of European players) ofter pay for, the player over the contract length the player originally signs.
If a player moves on mid contract you could in theory have a situation where you sold & profited on the player sale, but still had a liability to his former club, based on the original agreement when you bought him (as per your example). However, this is totally different to what the 'learned' Phil was suggesting was what happened with Fellaini, i.e. that we signed him on a 5 year contract, but agreed to pay for him over a term longer than 5 years.....
Football manager can be surprisingly accurate in some areas
But the bosman rules and such are something i'm not that familiar with. So you're saying the club can't sign a player for 20 million, pay 5m a year but only give them a 3 year contract? Signed on a 3 year deal and agree to pay over 4 years. What are the rules that dictate the club to have to pay off the fee of the player in their original contract? Might not make sense business wise, but surely it's not against any rules...?
Football manager can be surprisingly accurate in some areas
But the bosman rules and such are something i'm not that familiar with. So you're saying the club can't sign a player for 20 million, pay 5m a year but only give them a 3 year contract? Signed on a 3 year deal and agree to pay over 4 years. What are the rules that dictate the club to have to pay off the fee of the player in their original contract? Might not make sense business wise, but surely it's not against any rules...?
The new FFP rules state that players must be amortised over the length of their contract.