Their left back was on a yellow, so it made perfect sense to attack down that side with pace, which Townsend and Fredericks did for the second half. A pretty simple tactic (so it's remarkable AVB used it)
How can you say this???, how, how how??? How can it possibly be worse??? If the wingers are wider there's more room, bigger spaces for runners to make ground into. No-one makes a run into a crowd ffs. Seems to almost never happen! Dembele went for the byline for the winner v Sunderland. You're beginning to come across as a wum mate. Everything you write is the stupid opposite of whatever it is being said here.
Don't understand powerspurs,you need the wingers wide to stretch the defence,to make room for the strikers in the centre,unless your George Best you won't get through a parked bus
I'm definitely not meaning to WUM but I get really frustrated by the attitude of some of the posters on here. Essentially I believe that every manager in the PL know a lot more about football than every poster on here which is why they get paid ££ to manage clubs and we don't. Therefore they are all likely to make better decisions and choose better teams and play better tactics than we are. So when I see AVB doing something that I don't understand I try to learn from that and see why he might be right and I might be wrong. I might well not get the right reason but I think its less of a WUM attitude than calling him clueless.
I think the reason might be that short passes are much simpler to pull off than longer ones. Stretching the defence means your own players are farther away from each other so the pass completion accuracy goes down. So you create more space but lose the ball more often which may not be better. Also it doesn't create much more space because it only works if your midfielders get up to support the striker and they will be tracked by the opposition thus filling up the space. So the outcome of getting the ball wide is usually a cross into an area where the defence outnumber the attack.
If only life was like this; People in positions because they know more and are best suited for that position. Human Beings are often in their particular position by virtue of simply being in the right place at the right time or knowing somebody in an influential position. I have no doubt at all that a number of our posters given the chance could do a decent job as a football manager. They wont get that chance because they are not in the right place or job, as far as I know. So IMO PowerSpurs you are basing your argument on debatable ground. I'm glad you make your arguments PowerSpurs because it sparks debate and forces people to justify their comments which keeps the site alive and well.
I agree with the first half of your comment Spurf but not your deduction from it. Analogies don't always work but I'll risk trying. PL managers are the cream of football managers worldwide and so comparable to the top few % in any job. I'm sure that the reasons they got to the top were partly luck but that doesn't mean that their skills are representative of the whole population. AVB might be in the top 50 managers worldwide so I'll use an analogy of the top 50 100m sprinters the worst of which can run the 100m in 10.2s. I've no doubt that some of them became sprinters for all sorts of reasons but I'd lay long odds against any poster on here beating them in a race.
I'm not sure that's an entirely accurate analogy though, PS. Sprinting's an extremely straightforward activity. Football management isn't. There are various ways to go about running a football team. There's only one way to run the 100m.
Why? there's nothing to understand, what you're seeing is a mistake, stop looking for an answer that isn't there. A good number of posters here see and discuss the mistakes. Our very own board and Chairman have seen enough...mistakes http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foo...nch-month-after-talks-with-board-8985324.html Now who is right?, everybody else and their dog...or avb and his amazing vision (that thus far has failed, like I said, even the THFC board haven't liked what they've seen.) The slight signs of success of late are down to avb being made to deviate from the original **** idea. Why oh why can't you see that?
When I wrote my infamous "AVB is a clown" thread last season, it was because he was persisting with players and tactics that simply were not working for us. At least he seems to have learned someth... Oh, wait!
I was very pleased with Fredericks.Tackling hard and running hard.Looks like we have another future England full back (maybe?).
When I made the comment about Townsend it was because I had seen him play a typical wingers role, stay wide and force the fullback out of his comfort zone. That led to him being hacked down on the edge of the area which led to the first goal. I know that that that is a rarity in our current set up but a least its the variety that we need to unlock bus parking defences.
I just want to say that I personally really like Powerspurs' contributions to the whole debate about AVB and his tactics. In particular I like the fact that Powerspurs seems to be always coming from the position of "AVB knows a lot about football and so it's worth thinking about why he makes the decisions he does in an open-minded, critical way rather than just saying "It looks wrong so must be wrong" ". However I'm not that on board with the idea that those in positions of power are only ever there because they are the best at what they do and that money earned correlates with ability. There might be a general correlation but there are also so many deviations from this correlation that it's not very useful as a tool to judge someone. I also think that the debate about wingers (inverted or otherwise) should be based more on what we have actually seen happen in games. And what we've seen in games for the most part over the last year and a half is not enough chances created, not enough goals scored and a general lack of cutting edge. For these reasons I think the tactics and the choice of personnel to deliver the overall strategy is not working too well. Just because there are poor arguments being made against a system does not make the system right. Experience would suggest that, even when we come to understand the rationale behind the system, there is something not working with it. Cos otherwise we would not have relied on Bale for a whole season and, so far, have continued to benefit from penalties and wonder goals more than genuinely outplaying teams. But as I said, much as I basically disagree with your conclusions, Powerspurs, you're actually becoming one of my favourite posters on here. Long may your devil's advocacy continue and keep the rest of us (so far) non-believers on our toes!
Thanks Lenny Agree with most of that. Over his whole management career the evidence seems to be in favour of AVB knowing what he is doing. I also really hope that managers in general have a lot more skill than us posters our Spurs are wasting millions of pounds a year on the coaching staff
If you don't have an answer in a debate thats fine, there are bound to be some points none of us are ever likely to have an answer to, but its not right to just brush it off by saying "I don't know the answer, but because avb is in a top job he must know what he's doing." You used sprinters as an analogy, I'm going to use bankers. To follow your logic all those top bankers in top jobs over the last decade or two should have known what they were doing, they're being paid enough so they must be the right man for the job....that worked out well didn't it. Would it now be fair to suggest that qualifications do not always = success. How many intelligent people do you know encrusted with certificates, that have the common sense of a lamp-post! Personally I don't think its all that complicated, avb has tried to implement a 'Barca under Pep G.' style of football, difference here being with a group of unsuited footballers that haven't grown up together with one philosophy drummed in from an early age.
The point I'm trying to make Notso, using your example, is that a lot of jobs like banking, are actually quite hard. Making lots of mistakes doing them is par for the course. The fact the bankers ****ed up doesn't mean that you or I would have done better. I get that we disagree but I like reading your posts. I'm not sure why you react so badly to my vie
Its not a bad reaction, not in the sense of the word bad you're probably thinking, I'm just a boisterous character, everyone should know that by now.
