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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Smug in Boots, Dec 16, 2024.

  1. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    I’ll do what I like.

    It’s a thread about hypocrisy, not politics.

    Sorry to say nasty things about your hero.

    Bye …
     
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  2. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    I really don't like megathreads made of merging everything loosely related to a central topic. I use the board far less now we have them.

    They're impossible to keep up with, far better to have smaller threads on specific topics and let them stick around or disappear organically.
     
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  3. flandersmackem

    flandersmackem Well-Known Member

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    If we had stayed in...we would have played an important role in the change the EU needed..along with Germany, France, Spain and to a lesser extent Italy. Without The EU is the largest market in the world and gave us freedom of movement (which was a great thing for Brits) Our Kids/Grandkids will never forgive those who prevented the freedom of movement which was such an opportunity for those who made the most of it.
    The UK is no longer a world power, as part of Europe we had a voice which we no longer have . Such a shame. Farage/ Bojo/ Gove et al... have so much to answer for,
     
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  4. Somebodys pinched my sombrero

    Somebodys pinched my sombrero Well-Known Member

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    Disagree that we don’t have a voice Flanders. The UK has the sixth biggest economy in the world, we do have some considerable “clout”.
    Farage may be a bit of a wet wipe, but at least he has the countries interests at heart. I have no problem with immigration done correctly, in many cases it’s essential.
    What I do have a problem with is the boat people. Nearly all fit young men scamming a life in our country at the detriment of our own. £6.5 billion a year it costs us to take care of them. Ridiculous!
     
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  5. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Everyone has a problem with the boat people mate including the previous and current government, it’s an expensive nightmare. I don’t imagine any of the public want illegal immigrants either.

    But Farage tries to try it look like he's the only politician who cares and has all the answers. All I’ve ever heard him do is ask questions …

    … no one, including him, has ever told me what his solution is.
     
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  6. E.T. Fairfax

    E.T. Fairfax Well-Known Member

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    I think, whether you shoot, stab, throw a milkshake in the face of, or stick a whoopie cushion under the arse of an MP or campaigner, you should face a mandatory prison sentence.
     
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  7. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Thanks, at least there's someone capable of answering the question. I agree, to an extent, as well because politicians shouldn't be attacked imo although Farage is deliberately provocative and, I'm sure, enjoyed the publicity. I think the woman was given a 3 month prison sentence, suspended for a year.

    But whether it's a milkshake or glitter, people shouldn't be targeting those who live with death threats because of their beliefs. My actual point is that Farage, as always, has to play the victim and make it look like everyone treats him differently. This time he's claiming that the woman wasn't jailed because we have a two tier judiciary who are against him ...

    ... or that Starmer is telling the court to treat Farage differently.

    He's so predictable with this 'everyone's out to get me' routine.
     
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  8. WorkyTicketFTM

    WorkyTicketFTM Well-Known Member

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    Truthfully, I don’t really know. In my own opinion throwing a drink at someone isn’t really an offence, it’s being a bit of a menace but it happens every Friday night down the town…

    BUT when you set a dangerous precedent of throwing people in prison for writing mean words online because the “incite hate” then surely assaulting an MP is heading down the same path. A man was jailed for throwing an egg at Jeremy Corbyn in the aftermath of Brexit. I’m almost certain others have been jailed for similar “attacks” on MP’s. Obviously if it’s not an offence to do so then people would be doing it every time their opposition MP steps out in public.

    I think a better question is, if it was Kier Starmer or Rishi Sunak when he was in office would they be let off with a slap on the wrist? I’m not sure.
     
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  9. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    I agree with you on that, people should expect to take the consequences of their actions.

    My real point is how low Farage is prepared to go. The dignified thing would be to accept the judgement of the court and not play the poor victim as he always does.

    This eternal cry of ‘People in power are trying to silence me’ is so pathetic and predictable I'm just amazed anyone falls for it.
     
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  10. E.T. Fairfax

    E.T. Fairfax Well-Known Member

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    If I was walking down an average street and some random threw an unknown substance in my face I would be terrified up until the point when I realise that its icy cold, creamy, tastes of strawberry and my face will in fact not burn and peel off. For those few seconds alone I would like to see that person harshly dealt with (a kicking would suffice). When you consider that 2 MP's have been murdered fairly recently, an MP, whether you like him/her or not, must have concerns that they may be next. So for that reason alone that person should be even more harshly dealt with. And as a kicking would be out of the question, a few months in prison should be mandatory for all cold beverage MP attacks.
     
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    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    I agree, it’s a poor thing to do and should be properly dealt with …

    … I just find Farage’s comments a bit cheap, as if a ‘Labour attacker’ would’ve received a custodial sentence.
     
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    E.T. Fairfax Well-Known Member

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    If Farage had done a Prescott, but whilst partially sighted instinctively throw a punch and cracked her jaw, I think I would have chuckled. That'll teach her!

    Farage, alot of the stuff he says makes sense and I see myself agreeing with him. Its the rest of the stuff he says and does, the way he acts, behaves, when his mask slips, which makes him look a bit of a joke. He will never be a serious politician. But then again, I thought that about Boris Johnson. Scary!
     
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    Agree , if there’s no consequence , it will become the norm and and more people will throw whatever’s to hand for any reason
     
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  14. WorkyTicketFTM

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    No I totally agree with that to be fair, maybe I sounded like I was dressing it down because of my own take on someone throwing a drink.. but it can’t be brushed under the carpet because if there’s no consequence it would happen every day. One day it could be acid. And as I pointed out a man went to prison for throwing an egg at Corbyn so there really needs to be the same level of discipline handed out when it’s a very similar offence. Maybe because she’s female she wasn’t thrown in prison?
     
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    But this is the problem in my eyes, what’s a serious politician? Because all i’m seeing at the minute is a comedy sketch. They all stand in parliament having digs at each other and jeering like little children.

    All I kept hearing labour voters say was “adults are in charge now”.. really? Because it doesn’t seem like it. Starmer looks like the furthest thing from a leader I’ve ever seen. I think most of us just want to see a clear plan of action that makes sense both morally but also financially and some accountability for the decisions that are made instead of finger pointing. People like Angela Rayner because she sounds common as much as with a lisp and a thick accent, they don’t actually bother to watch her stand in parliament deflecting everything that’s put to her and turning into an attack on the previous government.. I think she’s been knocking around with my missus :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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    Farnboro simply gave his opinion that a thread should be merged. That’s all he said and he’s patronised about Farage being his hero?

    The electorate are as bad as the politicians these days. Far too divisive.
     
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  17. flandersmackem

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    I have no idea what the issue is with stopping these boats.... From a layman's perspective with all the technology at our disposal I would have thought this would be an easy fix....clearly it is not.
    Back to Farage....I really don't think he has anything at heart other than the betterment of himself...That said, this could be said of every politician both here and in the EU...
     
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    Is that true?
     
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  19. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Yes, that was me giving my opinion, to which I’m entitled, and I stand by it …

    … mind your own business, he can answer for himself.

    I asked him if I was wrong, which was possible, and he ignored me.

    So now I think my first guess was correct.
     
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