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Because of his injury, Jay is having to adapt and maybe play in a different way prior to his injury. It is interesting to see the top strikers in the world adapt like Ronaldo who no longer goes on surging runs past the full back as he previously did at Old Trafford and in his earlier years at Real. Likewise, Suarez who is playing a quite different role to the one he was asked to do at Liverpool, so Jay is having to evolve his game, and good luck to the player.
 
People are entitled to slag off millionair footballers. Lots of people slated Yoshida, some like myself didn't, but I'm not going to start gloating. He could make a total cock up next week. Jay Rod could miss a sitter next week just like he did vs Stoke and this thread will be here to bite you in the ass.
 
As a former centre forward, I disagree. Scoring a goal does something to you. It makes you walk taller, puff your chest out further. I can hardly recall me scoring a screamer from outside the box. I probably did, but the lucky deflected bounce off a quite considerable arse meant just as much as any other goal to me.

I couldn't tell you how many times teammates would grumble at me after they'd skipped passed three defenders, drilled one from the edge of the area, only to see the keeper push a shot on to the post for me to stumble the rebound over the line. "Lucky bastard" they'd say. "Read the papers" would be my retort.

These days my response would be different: "I'd rather be lucky than good"
As an ex-forward, attacking midfielder, defensive midfielder (I got slower as I aged) I'm quite happy with my own opinion of what sparks off real confidence.
 
One swallow doesn't make a summer comes to mind. Well done for having confidence in yourself to see through what others didn't, I'm pleased to see he has scored 2 goals, and I hope it carries on.

This is kind of like the media, Man U win a game and they are back, then they lose the next and mourinho should be worried about his job.
 
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As an ex-forward, attacking midfielder, defensive midfielder (I got slower as I aged) I'm quite happy with my own opinion of what sparks off real confidence.

Oh. Sorry I questioned it :(

PS. I used to be a left back, midfielder, then forward. I went further up the pitch as I got slower.

PPS. You'd have lost your strikers union card the moment you dropped back.



[HASHTAG]#notaproperstriker[/HASHTAG] :)
 
Oh. Sorry I questioned it :(

PS. I used to be a left back, midfielder, then forward. I went further up the pitch as I got slower.

PPS. You'd have lost your strikers union card the moment you dropped back.



[HASHTAG]#notaproperstriker[/HASHTAG] :)

No, that's OK FLT. But you strike me [sorry] as a striker who never really suffered a lack of confidence anyway. Whereas the professional and non-professional [and even lower] leagues are littered with strikers who couldn't regain what they once had. Occasionally one went in off a bum or shin, but then their goal drought continued for ages. An example just popped into my head - Marek Saganowski. Couldn't buy a goal. One went in off somewhere but it made no difference. I think the pressure got to him. But it's happened to Torres, Falcao, etc... Torres can't even claim an injury got in the way, like JayRod.!

As for playing positions, I have to admit that the only two I didn't play were GK and LB. I played CB once and was rubbish. Kept wandering upfield trying to get involved. :)
 
No, that's OK FLT. But you strike me [sorry] as a striker who never really suffered a lack of confidence anyway. Whereas the professional and non-professional [and even lower] leagues are littered with strikers who couldn't regain what they once had. Occasionally one went in off a bum or shin, but then their goal drought continued for ages. An example just popped into my head - Marek Saganowski. Couldn't buy a goal. One went in off somewhere but it made no difference. I think the pressure got to him. But it's happened to Torres, Falcao, etc... Torres can't even claim an injury got in the way, like JayRod.!

As for playing positions, I have to admit that the only two I didn't play were GK and LB. I played CB once and was rubbish. Kept wandering upfield trying to get involved. :)

I have been through some droughts, don't worry :(

I actually played in goal once. Most scary 90 minutes ever. It was an FA Trophy game. It was like watching a film of "carry On Goal Keeping"
 
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I have been through some droughts, don't worry :(

I actually played in goal once. Most scary 90 minutes ever. It was an FA Trophy game. It was like watching a film of "carry On Goal Keeping"

Bloody hell.! I think there's enough devil in me to have liked to have watched that. <devil>

I only ever played in goal occasionally during practice for freekicks [perversely, as I was the main free-kick taker, I didn't need the practice, apparently - work that one out]. I certainly didn't like those footballs raining in at me. Of course, this was in the days of bare hands too. Thin gloves were an option when it was wet. I think I was just there to fetch the balls out of the net quickly.

Incidentally, I notice Fraser [and other modern keepers] often isn't able to catch the ball. I put it down to those thick gloves. Tbf, Artur plucked a cross out of the air on Sunday, and he was wearing the de rigeur thick gloves.
 
Every week I played it was like 'Carry On Goalkeeping' then when I occasionally moved up just one level it was 'Carry On Scoring'.

So Junior and Sunday Morning football is where I stayed.

Really frustrating when nearly all of your mates are actually quite good at football - you end playing for any team because you never know any of the players before you start any way. Normally it was the teams who couldn't get anyone to play in goal...

My only cup winners medal game has just been transferred from VHS to digital too - Kings Arms vs Hospital Sports - Minnows Cup Final! So some old gentlemen are going to get a surprise link to a video on the Interweb this Christmas.
 
Bloody hell.! I think there's enough devil in me to have liked to have watched that. <devil>

I only ever played in goal occasionally during practice for freekicks [perversely, as I was the main free-kick taker, I didn't need the practice, apparently - work that one out]. I certainly didn't like those footballs raining in at me. Of course, this was in the days of bare hands too. Thin gloves were an option when it was wet. I think I was just there to fetch the balls out of the net quickly.

Incidentally, I notice Fraser [and other modern keepers] often isn't able to catch the ball. I put it down to those thick gloves. Tbf, Artur plucked a cross out of the air on Sunday, and he was wearing the de rigeur thick gloves.

Those thick gloves have special rubber on them - make them wet and the ball sticks to them like glue, honestly. They improved my limited play for a few years, until I got older and slower and even more rubbish, then a wall wouldn't have helped me keep clean sheets.

I too remember when I first played in goal wearing no gloves unless it rained.
 
I am going to gloat. For weeks I have heard J Rod is hopeless and worse. I have stuck to my guns and said give the lad a chance, he has been out for two years.

Where are you now! Suddenly looks like we have a premiership striker today and makes some of your comments look so petulant.


J Rod love from me, and when the second went it, I nearly wet my self

Today,'s morale is have some patience.

More pleased for Jay( despite a great result for the team)

And well done Puel
I like Jay, although I have always thought that one of the reasons he was so good before his injury was because he played alongside a very generous colleague who created many chances for him when others would have shot themselves (Lambert).
Your words have meaning though but you need to carry on applying them in the sense that 'one game does not a swallow make' or whatever the phrase is! In other words lets see if he can continue his recent '2 goals a game' form.

I think he will.
 
I like Jay, although I have always thought that one of the reasons he was so good before his injury was because he played alongside a very generous colleague who created many chances for him when others would have shot themselves (Lambert).
Your words have meaning though but you need to carry on applying them in the sense that 'one game does not a swallow make' or whatever the phrase is! In other words lets see if he can continue his recent '2 goals a game' form.

I think he will.
Our recent goal famine hasn't been due to a lack of chances created, but an inability to finish them off! Now that Jay's confidence has had that boost on Sunday, hopefully he'll be banging them in for fun from now on.
 
Our recent goal famine hasn't been due to a lack of chances created, but an inability to finish them off! Now that Jay's confidence has had that boost on Sunday, hopefully he'll be banging them in for fun from now on.

Indeed. In fact I believe we are something like the 2nd or 3rd highest in chances created. Definitely lowest in conversion. I'll go as far to say that we could be Top 4 [certainly Top 6] if we had kept our strikers from last season, or replaced them properly. Here's hoping Jay has properly found his instinct.
 
Something about a swallow. A season that comes after spring. The former does not equal the latter.

Pleased for jay and hope he does get back to his best but this is a crap thread.
 
Something about a swallow. A season that comes after spring. The former does not equal the latter.

Pleased for jay and hope he does get back to his best but this is a crap thread.

Really? The premise is that fans know **** all. Which is true, on the whole. Simply because we're not sat in on policy, strategy and the day to day stuff.
 
Really? The premise is that fans know **** all. Which is true, on the whole. Simply because we're not sat in on policy, strategy and the day to day stuff.
Luckily....as Saints would end up with 300 players based on their performance in video highlights, a half-empty 50K stadium, and a managerial change every few months. However, we would have decent grub in the concourse. :)
 
Really? The premise is that fans know **** all. Which is true, on the whole. Simply because we're not sat in on policy, strategy and the day to day stuff.
But fans don't know **** all. For all we know the club may have tried to offload him in the summer or Jan. Clubs occasionally let a player go as they think he's not up to it (take a bow mr lambert).
I just don't like all these derisory comments about fans, sure there are some bellends out there, but some of us are clever people. Of course we only see a glimpse. I was not expecting jay to score and had mentally written jay off but am so so pleased for him. Always rooted for him and won't hear a bad word about him. But just because I wouldn't have put him 1st on the sheet it doesn't mean I know **** all.