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Fan's Generic Anti-Western, Religion and Politics Thread

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by thefanwithnoname, Dec 21, 2011.

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should this generic thread stay

Poll closed Feb 28, 2012.
  1. No

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  2. Yes

    4 vote(s)
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  1. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member
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    You're asking if they have, not whether they can be, which is the issue.
    I've no idea of whether one has.

    Clegg's wife and kids are Catholics, by the way, though he professes to be an atheist.
     
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  2. Ciaran

    Ciaran 2016 POTY

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    In fairness you alluded that having a Catholic in power would be a problem in NI. I pointed out that a Catholic is in power in NI and a Catholic has never been in power at Westminister.
     
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  3. PleaseNotPoll

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    That wasn't what I meant.
    I suggested that someone who was openly Catholic would lose some votes because of it, especially in certain areas.
     
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  4. KingHotspur

    KingHotspur Well-Known Member

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    I said something similar and got called racist.

    If both your parents are Asian then you can't be English but can be British.
     
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  5. PleaseNotPoll

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    Who's telling people this stuff?
    Totally untrue.
     
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    I don't think you're being racist but i don't agree - my mum and dad are Irish but I regard myself as English. All down to interpretation i suppose but if you prove me wrong I'll call you a ****, sorry, accept it graciously..
     
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  7. KingHotspur

    KingHotspur Well-Known Member

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    It boils down to personal opinion I guess. In my opinion I would consider you Irish.
     
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  8. PleaseNotPoll

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    Fan's not talking about opinion, though.
     
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  9. KingHotspur

    KingHotspur Well-Known Member

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    Being English is in your blood, you can live here all your life but if neither parent is English then imo you aren't English.
     
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  10. Erik

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    By the same logic, how the **** can you be British you total, absolute, utter mongo?
     
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  11. KingHotspur

    KingHotspur Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the insults.

    You can be British

    by birth in the UK, or in a place still a British colony;
    by naturalisation in the UK or a British colony;
    by registration as a citizen of the UK and Colonies
    by legislate descent from a father to whom the previous conditions applied.
     
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  12. PleaseNotPoll

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    Yet you can't be English by being born in England, apparently.
    What's the difference?
     
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  13. Erik

    Erik Well-Known Member

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    Yet you're arguing a completely different set of rules apply to being English. So, in other words, a man born in England to German/Bosnian/Turkish/etc parents can never be called English, but can claim to be British, despite his only qualifying factor being that he was born in a little part of Britain called England.
     
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  14. PleaseNotPoll

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    How does this work with somewhere like France, by the way?
     
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  15. KingHotspur

    KingHotspur Well-Known Member

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    Exactly.

    Being English is completely different to being British.

    BTW - I don't consider myself to be English even though I was born here and my mum is white & English, so I have a little insight into this area before anyone thinks I'm some far right lunatic.
     
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  16. Erik

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    <laugh><laugh>.
     
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  17. Gambol

    Gambol George Clooney's wee brother

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    Shut it pikey <laugh>
     
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  18. Jip Jaap Stam

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    English isn't ethnicity either. When you fill in an equal opportunities form, it never has "English" as an option. It does have "White British" though.
     
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    Shut the **** up or I'll send my cousin's round your house to tarmac your driveway!
     
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    You have to <laugh>
     
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